Totem Forest or Mani-2 signature?

Rumadian, yes it's been a long time but this thread is just too valuable to be left behind :-)

Sorry that I should've been more specific. I plan to drive the Mani-2 with a pure Class A Accuphase power amplifier 50 watts @ 8ohms and 80 watts @ 4ohms (I think Mani-2's are 4 ohms) and just to give other members an idea.

This Amplifier currently drives my Forest and for some reason I feel it is more powerful than the Bel Canto Ref1000 mono blocks. My floor shakes at regular listening level at 9 o'clock but at the same time I do not feel it's loud or noisy.

I'm not sure how to describe my listening room but it's basically a Living room/Great room in a typical house that I would think it's medium size.

I mainly listen to Classical and Jazz musics and so I'd think I don't play the music in an extremely loud volume.

Thanks again for your help Rumadian. You have a bag of knowledge in the Totem line and yes I am looking for an upgrade up the totem pole two years after enjoying the Forest.

Mimberman, I see that you have a Mhdt Havana. That's also what I use currently. I once had an opportunity to have the Havana DAC hooked up to a Forest with an Integrated Accuphase. I really enjoyed it.

I wonder what Tube do you use? United Electron 5670 Military type (made in England) is what I like best for the Havana when used with the Bel Canto class D amp. The LM Ericsson 2C51 goldpin is also very nice, super quiet but not as warm as the United.

As for the Hawk, I have auditioned it side by side with a Staff and found them to be similar except that Staff is much cheaper.

I am particularly interested in the Ref1000/MKII setup with the Forest or Mani-2. Like Maverick_spd said, the Mani-2 requires more power. Would the REF1000 up to the task? Also I just read the MKII is a $2000/pair upgrade for current REF1000 owners. I wonder how would that sound with the Mani-2 or the Forest. Thanks again.

Zieman, I thought the MSRP for Mani-2 is $3995/pair?
Perhaps you mean with the R-2 stands $720/pair plus Tax and shipping? Thanks.

Wow Rumadian, I'm very impressed with your experience on the Totem speaker line ups. My experience with the Staff is actually very similar to yours. I actually like the Staff a lot in I haven't heard the Forest.

Thank you very much for your advice. I think with my limited budget and the room I currently have my mind is set for the Forest for sure. Your help is much appreciated.

Zieman, thanks for the pricing info.
What are the Dynaudio driver models? I read that some of the drivers Totem made are by Hi-xx audio (forgot the name) in China? and some of them are the same as Dynaudio? Thanks.

I just want to keep the options open so let me ask you experts out there who is familiar with the Icepower class d amps. Will the class d work well with the 4ohm speakers like the Mani-2 vs. the 8 ohm speakers like the Forest?

As far as I know the lower the impedance the higher the current the amp will need to output? I am unsure if the class-d likes lower impedance or higher... I have read it somewhere regarding the same topic but can't remember.

Any thoughts? Thanks.

By the way, I've heard nothing but good things about the Mani-2 until I read this post:

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/GetPost.aspx?PostID=2520

I am open to different opinions and critics, so I could know more about Totems...

I have read about the HiVi driver before. In Fact I even saw a screen shot of a member pulled out the Totem driver with Hi Vi logo on it. (I forgot the model though...)

The HiVi Swan D2 looks like Totem clone!
http://www.swanspeaker.com/product/htm/view.asp?id=371

Rumadian, I still thank you for your post two years ago. In your opinion do you think an old Accuphase 80 watts into 4 ohms amp will be able to drive the Mani-2? Thanks in advanced.