I don't get the Moody Blues. All my friends dug them since the 60's. I always thought they were grandiose,pompous windbags, but then I like King Crimson, so go figure. |
This thread certainly reinforces my opinion on what a waste of paper and ink record reviews are. Excluding the late Ralph J. Gleason, of course... |
Oops...sorry for the misspelling (even though I still don't like him). |
Aaron Copland.
(And I do love Fanfare for the Common Man) |
You know the music they play for the commercials for beef? That is part of a Copeland composition. |
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All rap, all country. Pretty much most music after 1982.
Never cared much for Wagner or Copeland (Copeland=nails on chalkboard for me). |
never got the eagles
never got the pretty girls version of fleetwood mac
never got rem (sleep)
never got the cowboy junkies
never got foreigner
never got al stewart
don't get norah jones
all of this stuff is like sonic pablum |
as a musician in a working band,have often wondered what it is about music that makes one person love one-thing,and another hate same.no answer,other than this is simply what makes every-one an individual. |
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Cdelplato,
I didn't get Wilco, either, until I saw them in concert last fall. They are a damn good live band. I then relistened to some studio stuff... still don't get it! Live is best, I guess. |
I never got Garth Brooks Hokey Hokey Hokey! |
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Dave Matthews--(has a killer drummer)--terrible songwriter, off-key & repulsive voice, going for soul but has none;
Randy Newman--ought to write the score for an Albert Brooks movie called "The Ruse"
Diana Krall--We go from Billie Holliday to this? Well, I guess Smooth Jazz is evidence that artistic culture can move in reverse. |
Tori Amos
R.E.M.
Steve Earle |
Warren Zevon (RIP), Randy Newman. I just never got what the
hoopla was all about. Werewolves of London? Short People?
Huh? This kind of "outragious" writing makes critics darlings? I know they did other stuff, but....for 5 years or more back in the '70s these guys had streams of articles
written about how great they were. Theirs sounded like conventional material to me, compared to Zappa, Beefheart,
Reed, et al. |
Nearly everything played on the radio.
Pearl Jam anything after Ten. The lazy grunge movement so permeated everything about Eddie Vedder that he doesn't even try to sing--usually he doesn't even bother to open his mouth. I apparently got lazy too because I don't bother to even play his cds...
Norah Jones. Has anyone else noticed that she only has one song? It's the length of the whole album and for some reason has these short 3-5 second breaks of silence every 4 or 5 minutes. I predict a One-hit-wonder here.
To reveal my own hypocrisy though. I love albums like The Cure's Disintegration because it all sounds the same. I find this to be very relaxing on this particular album. It's odd how some things just click with some people. I for one am an ardent U2 fan; clearly others chiming in on this thread are not, but I bet that there are many artists that we both like. I wonder what makes some of us "get it" but not others? |
Dcwinton,
Interesting comments on the Dead/Phish comparisons. I am a long time Dead afficionado (since 1973), and done the whole taper thing, amassing thousands of hours of material. Dick's Picks and the From The Vault series are HQ godsends to fans. I've seen Phish 30 or 40 times since 1993 as well. Page O'Connell and Trey Anastasio are very gifted musicians and the interplay between the two of them is electrifying at times.Give a listen some time to "Live Phish, 12/14/95 Broome County Arena". The tapes as well as the commercial release are widely availble (email me off list for a copy).Set 2 is almost 1 hour of unbroken exploration. I agree with your gimmicky remark though. To my mind, I find Jon Fishman (Drummer)and his clownish stage antics distracting. I don't think Mike Gordon's bass playing is in the same league with Page and Trey. What has killed the Phish concert experience for me are the fans. Too much begging for free tix, stealing, obnoxious seat surfing, nitrous use and other boorish behavior.
The media has pretty much made the "if you like the Dead, you must like Phish" thing into more than it is. Dead and Phish both allow taping, both handle their own ticket sales, both have legions of loyal tour heads, both are/were masters of live improvisational style, both have far more enlightened moments live rather than on the obligitory studio stuff. Too many "Touch Of Grey Heads" who came late to the Grateful Dead party (since Aug. 9, 1995), don't have them to groove to, so instead they try to wrap themselves around Phish as the second coming of the GD rather than allowing Phish to stand for their own style of musical communication. Witness Phish's own 2 year self imposed hiatus to slow the train down. I do appreciate Phish and what they can do on stage. Some nights have been absolutely other worldly. But like you, I stand firmly in the you-can-dig-the-Dead-without-digging-Phish camp. |
Dave Matthews, Most any Jazz (maybe I will like it when I grow up) Madonna, Celine |
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For me, the difference is the songs. |
I know. Strange. But I find them very gimmicky and a bit too clever for what I think their level of talent can handle. Sort of like Foreigner trying to play Pink Floyd or Steely Dan. I wish I did like 'em, because it would make my social life easier, and my family life too as I turned my four nephews into Deadheads and they all became Phish and Dave Matthews fanatics. My loss I'm quite certain, but there's no accounting for taste. |
Dcwinton, how can you like the Dead and not like Phish? The first time I heard Phish I thought someone had cloned Jerry's DNA. |
Great thread.
I don't get:
Dave Matthews
Phish
Lyle Lovett
And I'm a hardcore Deadhead, someone who's "supposed" to like all three of the above. Yes, the Dead I got. Big time, but not really before I saw them live (Colt Park, 1975). Someone above noted the distinction between the live Dead and the studio Dead. Not even close to being the same band. I always assumed that they did the studio stuff to keep the mainstream world and record industry happy and the concert promoters (other than Bill Graham) fed with pr fodder. I have about 50 Dead recordings in one form or another, but haven't listed to a studio recording in years. To me, the Dead have ALWAYS been a band to listen to live or not at all. With the new Dicks Picks (since no. 17 I think) coming out in HDCD, it's a whole new world from 6th, 7th or 8th generation cassettes.
IMHO, most people who either don't get the Dead or don't like the Dead, when pressed, seem to be most turned off by the Deadhead "culture," and know very little about--or worse have never heard--the music. I've turned a few friends from detractors to fans when I dragged them to a show. And it didn't even require drugs! |
Diana Krall, she cannot hold a sound for more that 3 seconds...really gets on my nerves. Furthermore, all photos of her (and her Ads for Chrysler) are trying to make her look like a feminine, sexy woman. Pardon my expression, but, I think she has as much grace as a football player. I bought a cd, I got another as a gift, and my ears bleed everytime.
As for Celine Dion, her English singing is typically ''trhough the nose'' sounds. Try any of her French cd's, especially ''D'eux'', and you will discover an absolutely fantastic and stunning voice, more ''in control'' than most any contemporary artist. It just so happens that most French pronounciation and words come from the throat and chest, totally different from the english singing. Sort of like Patricia Barber, except that Dion can soar into the sky and not stay on the first floor like Barber's voice... Her current (Dion) ''techno pop'' songs are a discredit to her voicing abilities.
cheers! |
I don't get the Diana Krall thing either (and believe me, I've tried). My wife's a huge fan, so we've got the cd's, been to the concerts, etc. etc. and yet I still don't get it.
Nice legs, 'tho.
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Celine Dion-Yeah,I was stupid enough to get TITanic and 2 others I think because of a remark from a friend,but I only spent like $2-$3 each for them.
KORN and Hansons are a few other worthless CD's I have.
Matthew Sweet I do not much from!
There are others that ake up room in my collection! |
I am glad I only wasted $3 for a Radiohead CD. The rest I traded CDR's for.
What about Trading CDR's? Why not start a thread relating to it. I have over 300CD's from Trading Music and it has saved me alot!
Are there any idea's?We would have to send each other list through private Emails for it to work!
JMO |
I don't understand Maplethorpes' "art" either. If he donated a jar of his blood and organs then I'd be impressed. |
Joew
oh yeah.. duh huh? gotcha.. :) |
Celine Dion - has anyone brought her up yet? Sweet JESUS! Her style isn't something I would like regardless but what's up with her popularity? I mean...what the $%&!? |
Yeah I read about that as well...very sensitive types concerned about appearance more than anything. I figured I'd coin a term oppositional to "metro" by using "rural".
Didn't go over too well ;) |
Rurasexual? dunno..
metrosexual male is basically your typical GQ guy who spend lots of time in front of the mirror and use fasemasks and mudbaths, and manicures and pedicure...
im not sure who coined that phrase, but basically "Pretty boys"
I read about it in the newspaper the other day. Guys who use alot of facial scrubs and the stuff your wife probably has in her closets of bath supplies. They are all about fasion, and what shoes go with what and whatever..
I have a couple buddys like that. Seems kinda girly but they always look thier best. i know some women who like that sort of thing, i know alot who dont as well.
Not my bag of tea, but to each his own eh? |
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Would that make you "Rurasexual"? |
I agree with you sean, i dont see the big deal about radiohead, and im smack dab in the age group that is supposed to get it.
I think it is more reserved for those "Metrosexual" types, not so much guy guy's like me |
Well, I think I'm gonna be lambasted for this one...80 posts and noone has mentioned this guy...everyone must like him but me.
Neil Young. Ack. |
Sean,
That is a GREAT idea! Sort of an Audiogon "trading post." I can think of at least a dozen CDs/LPs I've bought this year that I would like to trade. I'm all for your idea. It may be worth creating a new thread in case other potential advocates don't check into this one.
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Sean,
I like your idea. Just wonder if the goons at the RIAA would try to stomp all over this like they have the file swappers? |
I have to "re-nominate" Radiohead. What the hell is all the hype about ??? Between these guys and a band called Porcupine Tree, i've wasted too much time and money trying to see what others and reviewers see / hear in them.
This gives me an idea. Rather than just trying to sell discs outright, is anybody open to "trading" discs that they don't like for discs that they like or just want to check out ? If we can find a way to post lists of what we want to "dispose of", we may be able to set up some type of system that allows us to exchange discs between us from within our collections. Not only would this expand our musical horizons, it might allow us to "clean house" in terms of helping us to get rid of discs that we never listen to and give them a home where they are better appreciated. Sound reasonable ? Sean
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Ya know Nrchy, Its kinda funny that you said that, there is an artist i was reading about a couple weeks ago who recently sold to the smithsonian a can filled with his own feces.
somehow managed to pass it off as art.
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I wonder if this question shouldn't be: What bands are out there that just have no substance, but reviewers still have to try to justify their existance??? Maybe we try to read thing into people or bands that are just shallow and meaningless.
It's like calling crap 'art' and expecting others to agree. |
I'll second the following:
Dave Matthew's
Jazz
Kiss
Aerosmith
RAP- terrible, is that even a music?, what a profanation, and look at the kind of money all these "artists" making.Speaks a lot about current tastes in music.
I'm wondering if Rock'n'Roll evoked the same kind of feelings in the 60's and 70's.My guess is not- I grew up on classic rock, still listening to it today. It stood the test of time. Will see about N'Sync, Britney Spears, Dr. Dre and the likes in another 20 years.
Continuing the list:
Yes - never couldn't quite get it,too pretentious for me, but i do agree they are a great musicians. Love Genesis and Jethro Tull though.
Creed- what a nauseating creation, just like a syrup, only worse. |
Well Jc that two against one |
Goerge Gobel, but he's still my all time fave.
Who says that you have to get it to get it? |
Opera has never done it for me. Operatic sopranos set my teeth on edge. I never had much of a taste for melodrama, either, and most libretti drip with it. |
Leonard Cohen, Tom Waits and Jtinn and the Tenor Boys.
Music for bipolar disorders. |
frank195, Diane Shure was awful, but that's just my opinion and I'm realistic to know that "one man's treasure is another man's trash." I really dig Maynard, but this was a mistake. Anyway, my Dad liked this CD and he knows more about music than I'll ever know. |
You didn't care for Diane Schuur and Maynard Furgerson??!!! I don't get it. If you have set parameters concerning music..it would be out of most parameters... but for me... I loved it... and I don't know either one. |
Opera, country, angst-ridden music. I listen to music for enjoyment, not to hear someone whine, cry, moan and groan about everything in life. That's probably why I like a lot of instrumental, rock or jazz; they spare me of the miseries. |
