Another sign SACD is dying

Tvad, good points all. I have nothing left to discuss other than the topic of this thread. The only dispute I have is a clone is not a clone. Digital reproduction is completely reliant on clocking, and the fact that clocking is not a perfect science, every copy be nature is altered.

The very fact that vinyl is available to a fraction of the audiophile community, which is in turn a fraction of the music industry, tells me there will be a digital equivalent to vinyl. I propose this will be SACD, due in part to the fact that much of the master tape library is being re-mastered into the DSD format. It seems logical that the audiophiles will want that information made available as purely as possible, thus SACD.

I just have a hard time seeing Chesky, Mapleshade and the like settling for degradation of the original.

JD, the difference between our points of view is that you appear to be trying to desperately hold on to this year’s state-of-the-art music reproduction format, and I am looking forward at the possibilities for the next state-of-the-art music reproduction format, in the belief that what is state-of-the-art today will shortly be yesterday’s news. The writing has been on the wall for several years as more and more music has been delivered over the internet.

Regarding the vinyl-analog/SACD-digital debate, in my opinion vinyl will survive as an analog delivery method, whereas SACD/CD will either disappear entirely or be relegated to a miniscule digital delivery method.

You wrote:

Digital reproduction is completely reliant on clocking, and the fact that clocking is not a perfect science, every copy be nature is altered.

I would propose by your own definition, even the production of each silver disc is subject to clocking anomalies, since discs are manufactured in batches on multiple CD burners, each of which is subject to clocking issues...as you suggest. Therefore, Chesky, Mapleshade and the like are already settling for degradation of the original.

Anyway, it seems we're picking at the gnat's ass here, and the little bugger just won't stay still long enough to get a firm grip on the sucker...

This explains my entire point. Small labels, XRCD and other high quality sources are not bulk produced. That's the who;e point.

Oh well, we clearly are on different wave lengths, but I commend you for not getting frustrated.

Small labels, XRCD and other high quality sources are not bulk produced. That's the whole point.

A perfect reason to expect the SACD format to disappear, and to encourage boutique labels to adopt less expensive methods of music delivery. I simply can't see a business surviving on bespoke music reproduction, but for the sake of SACD lovers, I hope I'm wrong...

audio software(cd's, lp's, sacds ,dvd's) have collectively taken a 25-30% tumble for the last two years running. the slack isn't being offset by purchased downloads either. a virtual culture shift is making music less important (to own)for many. listening to music, collecting it, and owning a home stereo is a taught behavior. unfortunately the only hardware company even courting the masses is bose.