Rok, thanks for your valiant effort as peacekeeper. Those are good definitions. But the issue is not the validity of subjectivity. Inherent in its definition is the idea that personal feelings are part of it. It makes my point. I have no issue with O-10 feeling that this or that is better FOR HIM. My point is simply that there ARE aspects of music that can be judged objectively. But first one must be willing to learn and understand the language of objectivity that relates to music; those pesky nuts and bolts.
O-10, I am not harping on anything. I believe it is you who is harping on the subject of objectivity. I don't know who your friend was nor know anything about his success (or not) in music. I don't mean to be so blunt, but concerning this issue I am afraid that you don't know what you're talking about. Of course, every musician can go through periods of little or no practicing; but, I assure you that eventually it catches up with him and it starts to show in his playing. And, no, Louis was not talking about his formative years. Bird practiced incessantly, so did Trane and on and on. In fact, as a humorous footnote; it is the bane of every hotel when a touring jazz band would/does come to town with the endless complaints from guests about the practicing in the rooms. Yes, the creative process happens in a player's head, but the chops need to be exercised and ideas developed and translated from the abstract to the physical and executed. C'mon O-10, you seem to have created this bubble with your own personal reality of what it's all about. I respectfully encourage you consider that your reality needs a little tweaking if it's going to be presented as anything but just your own. Regards.
O-10, I am not harping on anything. I believe it is you who is harping on the subject of objectivity. I don't know who your friend was nor know anything about his success (or not) in music. I don't mean to be so blunt, but concerning this issue I am afraid that you don't know what you're talking about. Of course, every musician can go through periods of little or no practicing; but, I assure you that eventually it catches up with him and it starts to show in his playing. And, no, Louis was not talking about his formative years. Bird practiced incessantly, so did Trane and on and on. In fact, as a humorous footnote; it is the bane of every hotel when a touring jazz band would/does come to town with the endless complaints from guests about the practicing in the rooms. Yes, the creative process happens in a player's head, but the chops need to be exercised and ideas developed and translated from the abstract to the physical and executed. C'mon O-10, you seem to have created this bubble with your own personal reality of what it's all about. I respectfully encourage you consider that your reality needs a little tweaking if it's going to be presented as anything but just your own. Regards.