Learsfool:
*****I grant you the use of your term as you want to use it - that's not the issue *****
Thank you. That's an important point.
**** I know of no musician who would say "playing music in accordance with some musical theory, and that alone, can make a player great." This is absurd on the face of it, no musician would ever say that.*****
Aboslutely true!! I agree with you. Well, one might. :)
***** What we do not understand is that you really do seem to think that many do?? ******
AHA!! now we get to the core of the problem. This is an example of The Frogman's Jedi Mind Tricks. He makes a statement, finds it cannot be defended, and now, all at once it's MY statement. I do not think this!! I use N&Bs to sum up what I feel THE FROGMAN thinks.
He said as much when we talked about the clip with some trumpet player and Phil Woods. I can't quote him, but I came away with the idea that he thought the trumpet solo to be the 'perfect' bebop solo. I thought it was noise.
This is the clip where I pointed out the obvious, that Woods is Fat.
So Learsfool, you are preaching to the Choir. You need to ask The Frogman to clarify / explain Nuts and Bolts. It's his term. Once he does that, we can start all over again. Perhaps, I will then have to rename "nuts and Bolts" Jazz.
In the mean time, lets remember Ellington's " It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that certain something" :)
Cheers
*****I grant you the use of your term as you want to use it - that's not the issue *****
Thank you. That's an important point.
**** I know of no musician who would say "playing music in accordance with some musical theory, and that alone, can make a player great." This is absurd on the face of it, no musician would ever say that.*****
Aboslutely true!! I agree with you. Well, one might. :)
***** What we do not understand is that you really do seem to think that many do?? ******
AHA!! now we get to the core of the problem. This is an example of The Frogman's Jedi Mind Tricks. He makes a statement, finds it cannot be defended, and now, all at once it's MY statement. I do not think this!! I use N&Bs to sum up what I feel THE FROGMAN thinks.
He said as much when we talked about the clip with some trumpet player and Phil Woods. I can't quote him, but I came away with the idea that he thought the trumpet solo to be the 'perfect' bebop solo. I thought it was noise.
This is the clip where I pointed out the obvious, that Woods is Fat.
So Learsfool, you are preaching to the Choir. You need to ask The Frogman to clarify / explain Nuts and Bolts. It's his term. Once he does that, we can start all over again. Perhaps, I will then have to rename "nuts and Bolts" Jazz.
In the mean time, lets remember Ellington's " It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that certain something" :)
Cheers

