Frogman, on your first post, there was Wynton Marsalis; he wasn't presenting things from my point of view, he was making his presentation from his point of view. At a minimum, that does have something to do with "Wynton Marsalis".
I thought we had narrowed the discussion down to "Bebop", and what evolved from that. "Jazz" is far too broad a subject to have a meaningful discussion about; as an "Aficionado", that is something I am sure of.

