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Jazz for aficionados

Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
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rok2id
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You want me to prove a negative.   Prove that there is no African influence.  That's like proving audiophiles can't hear wire.  No no.   You show the PROOF that Jazz is of African origin.   Show musical examples.  Post a clip, say from the Blue Note era, and point out the African influence.  

You have let your arrogance write a check, the facts can't cash.   Forget Wiki and all that agenda driven crap.   Show us the music.   You are a pro, this should be easy.

Cheers
frogman
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It IS easy and it’s been done here time and time again. You just can’t grasp the concept of hear the proof. Reasons why? I’ve got a pretty good idea by now; some are obvious, some not so much, but best not to go there. ONE article, ONE intelligent comment supporting your point of view ANYWHERE in print or sound record. JUST ONE.....ANYWHERE. That vs. all the hundreds of writings and statements by musicians and musicologists, all the books and text books on the subject....just ONE, Rok. Surely you can find one. Who knew you were such a groundbreaking and myth-shattering genius on the topic?  Just who is being arrogant here?  Just ONE, Rok. Lay it on us, please.
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rok2id
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You made the statement. (African influence in Jazz)   You now should show us why you made it.   I know, I won't get it.   I know, it will be over my head.   I know, only a school-trained musician like yourself would be able to hear it, but just this once,  step down from music Olympus and humor us mortals.

Cheers

frogman
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I have posted several clips of commentary and articles and how it all relates to everything (well, almost everything; not Bolero ☺️) that has been posted here many times.  Actually, your man Wynton did a pretty good job of explaining it all and it applies to most of what has been posted here.  So, take your pick of the examples.  Why don't you start with Wynton? What is really fascinating here is how you personalize all this.  It's not just me that is saying this.  It's everyone else too; except you.  I believe the onus is on you; if you want to go down that road.  Either way, fine with me.
orpheus10 OP
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Lay it on me dude, I want to hear it too; the afro in the Bebop, before Diz added it onto the Rebop and called it "Afrobop". But since he did it without consulting the "Bird" that would make it "illegitimate", and not worthy of my consideration.
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