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We actually can not (rpt not) measure soundstage height

We also do not know what the soundstage height is on the recording so there is no way to determine what the correct height is.  That means we also don't know whether one component is more or less accurate when it sounds different in this area.

After doing a ton of reading and listening over about 20 years I've decided that these types of differences are most likely distortions that will improve perceived performance in one area and degrade it in another.  I don't have the patience or the budget to blow through a lot of time and tens of thousands of dollars trying to find the perfect amount of various types of distortions to suit my taste.  While I agree that everything can't be measured, when people start talking a lot about something as nebulous as soundstage height I tend to lose interest.  

I hate to pile on but in addition to having an unbearable personality, kait is probably high end audio message boards' most recognizable charlatan.  I say if for the benefit of anyone who's new to the hobby and isn't familiar with the teleportation tweak, etc.  

jon_5912 - I hate to pile on but in addition to having an unbearable personality, kait is probably high end audio message boards' most recognizable charlatan. I say if for the benefit of anyone who's new to the hobby and isn't familiar with the teleportation tweak, etc.

+1

some synonyms, in no particular order:

delusional, fictitious, parasitic, liar, voodoo, sarcastic

jon_5912

geoffkait: We actually can not (rpt not) measure soundstage height

We also do not know what the soundstage height is on the recording so there is no way to determine what the correct height is. That means we also don’t know whether one component is more or less accurate when it sounds different in this area.

>>>>Actually we do know what the soundstage should be. The soundstage dimensions of the recording (if recorded live) is the dimensions of the recording venue. What with reverberant decay, echo and other acoustic characteristics captured on the recording. That’s why folks are able to recognize the sound of a particular hall or other venue. This sound of the hall is more apparent on well-recorded material and on high resolution system, obviously.

After doing a ton of reading and listening over about 20 years I’ve decided that these types of differences are most likely distortions that will improve perceived performance in one area and degrade it in another. I don’t have the patience or the budget to blow through a lot of time and tens of thousands of dollars trying to find the perfect amount of various types of distortions to suit my taste. While I agree that everything can’t be measured, when people start talking a lot about something as nebulous as soundstage height I tend to lose interest.

>>>>Sorry to have to be the one to disabuse you of your conclusions, especially in view of your 20 years of reading and listening. Soundstage is one of those things, you either hear it or you don’t. Better luck in the next 20 years. 😀

I hate to pile on but in addition to having an unbearable personality, kait is probably high end audio message boards’ most recognizable charlatan. I say if for the benefit of anyone who’s new to the hobby and isn’t familiar with the teleportation tweak, etc.

>>>>>Whoa! What? Wow, the superlatives keep on coming! Thanks for the mention! 🤡

gdhal
jon_5912 - I hate to pile on but in addition to having an unbearable personality, kait is probably high end audio message boards’ most recognizable charlatan. I say if for the benefit of anyone who’s new to the hobby and isn’t familiar with the teleportation tweak, etc.

+1

some synonyms, in no particular order:

delusional, fictitious, parasitic, liar, voodoo, sarcastic

>>>>Earth to gdhal - Are you looking in the mirror, spaceman? 👨‍🚀