The Science of Cables


It seems to me that there is too little scientific, objective evidence for why cables sound the way they do. When I see discussions on cables, physical attributes are discussed; things like shielding, gauge, material, geometry, etc. and rarely are things like resistance, impedance, inductance, capacitance, etc. Why is this? Why aren’t cables discussed in terms of physical measurements very often?

Seems to me like that would increase the customer base. I know several “objectivist” that won’t accept any of your claims unless you have measurements and blind tests. If there were measurements that correlated to what you hear, I think more people would be interested in cables. 

I know cables are often system dependent but there are still many generalizations that can be made.
mkgus

Would any of our skeptics like to try the Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement?

I'm not a sceptic.
I don't believe in magic.

2C½(LR) - yup, that's a new filter.
Add in more LCR for Y - yup another new filter.
Change loop area - yup, that changes LC - yup, another new filter
Only a magician would expect no change

DO THE MATH

I will summarize the results seen so far; the Schroeder Method has been used now in dozens of systems and has resulted in 2 instances, both with headphone setups, where the outcome was considered  marginal, but users still chose to use it over single IC, and the rest deemed clearly beneficial and very happy they tried it. The observations are piling up that it is not system dependent, or not nearly as system dependent as you think. i.e.  It is considered to cause improvement in some rigs and degradation in others. If dozens of rigs show marked improvement, and two showed marginal improvement, and there has not been an incident of clear degradation, then the dismissal that, "In some systems this could be an improvement, not so much in others," is starting to face statistical probability of being an incorrect conclusion. Also, the guess that it all depends on the SUT [system under test] would not be correct.  

There are now four makers of cables (TEO Audio, Audio Sensibility, and now ANTICABLES, as well as a smaller outfit on Agon; sorry, can't recall your moniker) that are making Schroeder Method ICs. I do not believe these people are opportunists, but are responding to customer request/feedback.

I have no interest in a lengthy argument about it. You will either accept the informal comparisons and observations of those who are trying, or you will stick with your impression of it. I imagine that if you would dismiss all these persons' conclusions you would say it is due to confirmation bias. If that is your position, given the additional information I shared above, then you likely will not try it. If you do not wish to try, we can simply be in disagreement, and I will move on to others who have expressed doubt, but are willing to try.

Are you going to try it or not? If you respond with ridicule or an attempted explanation of why it won't/can't work I will consider that a "no" and will move on.  :)

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Douglas...              
Just curious about single cables with double wires? So say a brand of cable makes a set of XX with four wires. and then makes a second types with same wire but using eight wires. Would that be
like' the doubled up cables? or do they need to be separate runs?