Brinkmann vs TW Acustic

I'm fortunate in having two turntables......the DD Victor TT-101 which keeps perfect speed via the Timeline regardless of record clamps, weight of record, type of cartridge and VTA......and even regardless of whether there are no arms tracking the record or three arms tracking the record.
The other turntable......the Raven AC-2 which must be set with the cartridge tracking the grooves and can get very, very close to complete accuracy via the Timeline.....but because of its controller, will be either slightly fast or slightly slow. But consistently so.
The differences in sound due to the timing in the two turntables is undetectable in my system so Raul, Lew and Suteetat are all correct in their predictions on this issue.
As long as a turntable is revolving at a CONSISTENT speed........whether slightly slow or fast........is all that really matters.

Suteetat,
very helpful description of your experiences. In fact Timeline is a precise instrument but for daily business I prefer my Allnic or my Kuzma strobe. I use the Allnic on my Micro SX 8000 (the blue one). It is nice to put the light in a permanent position switching it on when you fix the clamp. Calibrating then with the SDS is very easy and precise.

Regarding the different weights of the clamps or strobes I am a bit careful when using heavy ones. Usually I don't use them on air supported TTs.

BTW I agree with your experience that the Koetsu Coralstone is a very good match with the Micro Seiki on a FR-66 tonearm.

Hi Blammy,

my apology must have been someone else who was doing it years ago for TW in Germany, a mag named "LP"

Dgad,

yes my bearing had the ball bearing on top, yours must be an older design if it is the same as the AC because my AC was the same description you are referring to.

Guys I'm a pretty straight forward shooter, I'm just providing my own first hand experience. You don't have to agree that's okay, at lease one owner "Dgad" whom owns one has acknowledged he had the same issues in two areas.

As per my prior posts yes I did buy and own numerous TW products. Raven one was the most disappointing purchase after I got the AC3 and compared.

AC3, nice table - then comes my purchase of the BN. Physical appearance for me was night and day over the AC3 but should be at more than double the asking price, I appreciated the BN sonic wise.

So what happened Dgad?

Well after that "NEW PRODUCT" syndrome wore off specific things bothered me besides the numerous flaws I have mentioned previously. We are talking about a very expensive table here, $40 + K

At that time I could not get the speed to lock in as Dgad also mentioned with his. My controller unit had been sent back due to only being able to hold a 4-5 hour charge when on battery. I could hear a difference, as Dgad has written he had a similar experience.

Being in contact with both Jeff and Thomas I was basically being told "your crazy there is no difference being heard and the table runs on a accurate speed and the hours mentioned for battery is approx." and so on.

So be it.

At a point I found myself at a dead end so I started checking out other tables to learn more. I have learned allot and that there are all kinds of flavours, in the end really is subjective as I have read on numerous postings but I'm after what I like not others.

I know set-up, phono settings etc is important and have that covered and I always chuckle when specific individuals suggest there may be an issue there.

I'm happy where I'm at and don't see me saying it's the best sounding and best built, I always have the door open to try.

I actually have two tables, one that's been talked about in another forum mostly. Very interesting pce but very costly, also comes from Japan :-)

Rauliruegas, buy a TW BN table and place it in your system and then we can talk but until then you just won't get it.

Also you might want to keep an open mind in relation to Syntax table set-up, you just might learn something. :-)I know I have.

Obviously there was more going on then just not being able to hold an accurate speed but Dgad says at least that's now been resolved, good to hear.

I like it when manufactures listen, didn't originally to me but something must have happened.

I gotta go catch some waves so hang loose.

Dear Lewm: Sorry nto disturb you. IMHO is relevant because Dev is talkind about one critical audio subject: accuracy and things are that he owns tube technology that IMHO is not really accurat Nothing against tubes as you could think, only a " coincidence " and not because SS.

Regrads and enjoy the music,
R.

DEV

You don't the AF1 do you? If you do, insanely envious :-)