Results from Beta Testers of New Formulas

Paul,
I've begun listening after cleaning 4 LPs today. My methodology was similar to others. 2 LPs were purchased (used) yesterday after a trip to Academy Records in NYC. The others were garage sale purchases from a year or so ago. I used the 2 step process on side A and my normal RRL Deep Cleaner & Super Vinyl Wash process on side B. I did use separate brushes for each.
One question for all regarding brushes: Any learnings? I use a VPI nylon brush for step 1, and the disk doctor brush for step 2...
Too much commotion in my house to do serious listening today, but I can say that I noticed a difference immidiately on the first LP, King Crimson-Beat. This is one I just purchase NM to NM-, with a few paper scuffs, but no major scratches. The side with your 2-step definitely had less surface noise. This LP has good dynamics, and it was nice hearing notes attack cleanly and quietly. I'm looking forward to more serious listening over the next few days...
Cheers,
Spencer

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Paul,
Just a thought, but have you tried a cryo treatment on the ninjas? Maybe a little deep-immersion just prior to shipment might get their fiesty molecules to better line up, resulting in a more consistent behavior during the shipping process. It works for my kids, as in: "you better get in line mister".

I have a question for Paul Frumkin regarding the water.

RRL boasts about their "quadruple deionized water" used in their formulas. I still don't know what "quadruple deionized water" is, though I have worked in the ultrapure water industry. I take that term as a marketing buzzword for [ cation resin + anion resin + mixed bed resin + mixed bed resin ] purification train, like what is used for laboratory grade instrument calibration water.

My question is, do you think using ultrapure water might improve the performance of your products? It seems to me that so far the Beta testers are very satisfied with the results. Now ultrapure water is an entirely different animal. With about $50-$60 you could buy a small mixed bed resin cannister and run the distilled water through it, converting it into decent quality ultrapure, conductivity in the less than .060 uSiemens or so...and add a SECOND beta test round!!!

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Hi Psychicanimal,

It was my understanding that: (1) distilled was preferable to deionized because it removed both ions and organics; (2) deionized substituted polyvalents, such as Mg+, for Na+ and Ca+, which maybe didn't really advance the ball all that much for our purposes; and (3) your water basically become re-ionized when exposed to the air.

Also, if the group concensus is that these formulas work well and I am therefore encouraged to offer them for sale, I had planned on selling them in concentrated form (dilutable in the range of 4:1 to 8:1) -- I don't want folks to have to pay shipping for water, at 64.4 pounds per cubic foot. To maintain purity if I use deionized, and assuming most folks have ready access to distilled but not deionized, I would have to ship in dilute, ready-to-use form, which would undermine one area of cost savings.

But both formulas would contain some water, and since you have worked in the industry and garnered expertise, I would like to discuss this with you either directly via e-mail or through a telephone call. Thanks!

Best regards,
Paul
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