@ Doc77,,Hi, I do not blame you one bit on saving money over there in Hong Kong!, As we well know, their is a 500% mark-up eany way!,, I asked about the reliability because some of the Ayon, AmR, etc.. I read here on the threads had problems, mostly the cheaper componets,, so far the Ayon 2s has not needed rebooted or any thing else, my problem is I really do not like the sound of the 6h30 tubes, I like the sound of the american type tubes better,, Do you know much about modwright modification company?, It would be nice to rid my self of the russian tubes without buying another player, I would have to rework the circuitry I am sure to be able to use different tubes than the 6h30 tubes!,If that is possible,LOL!,, cheers!