Int Amp for Thiel CS 3.7

I agree but when you have limited budget you have to make a choice.

Any experience with the Modwright KIW 200 SE ?

Under €10K.

Pass Int 250 or Gryphon Diablo 300 ?
Which has the right sound signature for CS 3.7 ?

The Pass INT 250 is doubling down to 2 Ohm.

The French distributor on his website, i don't know if this is true :

http://www.zedhifi.com/product.php?id_product=59

I spoke to an old Thiel dealer and he told me after having tried many different brands like Pass, Bryston, Classé, ASR, and McIntosh, the best of them all with Thiel speakers is Sugden  and also Luxman :

https://www.sugdenaudio.com/sapphire-series

techno_dude you said it all.
unsound for Sugden you have the SPA-4 or even better the FBA-800.
For Luxman i think it's the M-900u.

Kalali sorry but i absolutely don't like Mark Levinson's lastest amps and Int.

Dave and Troy many thanks for your input, i diden't think T+A would be on the warm side therefore i will have to check them out.
There is no distributor in my area but i guess it would be possible to order directly from Germany.
As for Gryphon i have auditioned the Diablo 300 and liked it very much, a lot of weight and darker sounding, would be a good match for the CS 3.7
Dave and Troy any experience with Sugden ?

carmenc how about this combo :

http://dandagostino.com/products/classic-series-2.php

http://www.vac-amps.com/productPages/SignatureMk_IIa.html

I would have to save up for quite a while lol.

What do you guys think about the Bel Canto Black ACI 600 all in one.
Does it compete with much more expensive separates ?

Dave do you think the T+A HV 3100  will be more refined and have more magic with my CS 3.7 compared to the Diablo 300 and the Vitus RI-101 ? or is it a close call ?
Thanks,

Thieliste

I finally have a T+A distributor in my country since april 2018 so i will try to get in touch with him and see if it is possible to demo this gear.
The Luxman L-509X looks beautiful but i'm not sure it has the juice to drive properly Thiel 3.7s.
Thanks Dave for the information, your making me curious about this T+A brand lol

@david_ten  Thanks for your feedbacks on all of this gear that you were able to audition, i'm surprised you prefered the T+A 3100 over the Ypsilon Int, that does speak to me.
I'm a big fan of Ypsilon, last year i was fortunate enough to demo the PST-100 preamp and the Aelieus II Monoblocks in my system and was blown away but here we're talking €52K worth of gear.
Yesterday i spoke to the new T+A distributor who just got back from Munich and he told me the 3100 HV should retail for about €13K.
Anyway i might be able to compare the T+A 3100 HV and the Luxman L-509X at a dealer's.

My 2 favorite sources for this new system so far are Totaldac Seven and Aries Cerat Kassandra 2 Ref, but i'm also looking at more reasonable DACs like the PS Audio Directstream or the Aqua Formula.

Anyone familiar with the Audionet Watt Integrated ?How does it compare to the T+A 3100 HV ?

Some reviews of the T+A PA 3100 HV with it's separate PSU :
http://www.ta-hifi.de/wp-content/uploads/HiFi-News_PS_3000_HV_PA_3100_HV_Review_05_17.pdf
http://www.ta-hifi.de/wp-content/uploads/stereo-magazine-issue-10_mp_3100_ps_3000.pdf

I have auditioned the Bel canto Black top of the line a couple of years ago on a pair of TAD compact Ref, very clean sounding but didn't blow me away for $55K.I think just under $20K there are many competitors that are more musical.The 4 integrated that i really have to audition before making a decision are the T+A PA 3100 HV, the Ghyphon Diablo 300, the Vitus RI-101 and the Pass Int-250.I'm sure one of these four will be a perfect match for my speakers.The difficult part will be to home demo each one of them knowing that not a single dealer carries all four brands where i live.

If someone can describe me sound of the Vitus RI-100 or the newer RI-101 that would be a great help.It seems that there is no Vitus distributor in my country anymore.

The new Vitus SIA-030 class A might be something to explore also.Price will be pretty scary.

I got some news from Vitus, they told me the SIA-030 integrated amp will be released end of this year and price will be €30K in Europe without the DAC option.