No one actually knows how to lculate what speaker cable they need

Watch your language. That's way it was flagged.
I'm tiered reading pages on pages of links others wrote. I've told you that you may post your own. I don't read nor refer any more to other (like Nelson pass) articles.

Let me sum up you're arguments and my responses...

You claim a new way to calculate appropriate speaker cable. 

I ask you how; what's the formula?

You state a theory and refer to the evidence of the results of an impedance calculation. 

I looked at your evidence and found an error in your interpretation. 

You demanded evidence to support my claim that you're wrong. 

I cited and linked to an article by Nelson Pass, which you read, that agreed with the claim I was making. 

Repeatedly you've presented anecdotal evidence and demanded it be held to the same level of respect as actual measurements. 

Now you demand I engage you on the level of anecdotal evidence as if that's equal to quantitative evidence of your quantitative claim. 

Then you demand I replicate the quantitative evidence because you refuse to explain the difference between your measurements and those of Nelson Pass, which you've already looked at. 

The anecdotal evidence that people say it sounds good doesn't support your scientific claim that your formula is the cause. Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence of quantitative scientific statements such as you've made. When you state you've developed a calculation, you've left the realm of the subjective and entered the objective. Therefore, subjective evidence is irrelevant. 

Why do we have to repeat everything again (and again)?

1.       I've told you not to hold your breath for the cables formula. I did offer to calculate for all, for free, what cable they need. For some, who had a problem to get the DF, I walked the extra mile to contact the manufacturer and get the information.

I reserve my right, not to give away my formula, at least not for free.

If you think it worth for you, pass me an offer on the privet massaging (-:

2.       Nelson Pass is not arguing with me. You do. I've told you to bring your own say, not others. You claimed you did measurements to prove me wrong! Where are they? Please show us what and how you measured what, and the results.

3.       On my side, there are six guys (five on this thread) that tried it out and came back with results and impressions. I may say that they were all happy with the results.

Please refer to the excel table I posted earlier.

What would support my claim, if not an evidence of six people who had a recommended cable by some dealer, replaced by a calculated cable, and their report of the improvement in sound?

Not to say, that they invested in that cable, less than US $ 100.- for a result that mostly is unheard of, in this hobby.

There are two things that do connect my claim: I show (by calculation) the right cable to use and once it is used, the owner's report of what it improved.

It is a bit unfair, after some claimed that all it matters is sound and how we hear it, that you come to claim, it is not good for you and that you want scientific prove.

I'm afraid that it would get into par. 1 of this post, why it was not added. Let's keep it that way for now.

As far as this dialog is getting, everything on your summery post has been said already, done and dusted. Why anyone would want to read it all over again, nor re write it?

 

" I reserve my right, not to give away my formula, at least not for free."

So, if not to make money, just like the cable manufacturers, why not reveal the formula? Or are you just a noble person and the accolades of a half dozen questionable participants good enough for you? 

I assume that you and Mr. kosst_amojan are giving a lot all the time for free and now you are wondering why not all do so?

All you were doing on this thread is giving me hard time with your negative and hostile attitude. Now you think that you deserve to receive the formula as a gift?

Happy dreams.

How is it that someone like the OP can dangle so much nothing and get so much attention?

There is no relevance to what the OP has to offer other than the illusion of some secret sauce. It doesn't exist. The DF of an amp does not define anything, nor does the minimum impedance of a speaker. These factors are not predictive of anything.

And why haven't speaker and amp designers, who are ALL far more talented than the OP, come up with such "calculations" or "standard guidelines?" Because there would be no value.

I never said I did the measurements at any point. I said the measurements have been done and they don't agree with your claims and then I cited and linked to them. You didn't do the measurements either! How can you ask someone to verify measurements you haven't even done yourself? Making measurements of these kinds is a somewhat technical challenge requiring some somewhat expensive gear and calibrated apparatus. I don't have that gear yet.

As for the theory which your secret formula supports...
It must be wrong. It has to be wrong because your understanding of the phenomenon doesn't match measurements. The values you claim are in error by orders of magnitude as proven by mathematical calculation and the verification of that math by measurements. Nobody needs to know your formula to prove its wrong because the results you claim from it are wrong. And that's why I know you've never done the measurements yourself. 

By the way... We're still waiting for you to explain to us just how Nelson Pass went down the wrong path. The least you could do would be to explain why his measurements are wrong. 

Ok guys. This is going to end now and here. If your boss, of the cable industry you may represent wish to have a conversation, I'm here. For you: I'm no more available.

Who's the "boss of the cable industry"? Why would anyone want to talk to you when you can't defend your theory from observed measurements that prove it wrong? You had all kinds of fight when you thought anecdotal evidence was your ace in the hole. C'mon, man! Tell us how the math is wrong and how Nelson Pass doesn't know what he's talking about or measuring. Stop trying to appeal to the imaginary "boss of the cable industry" for credibility. You don't get to be the "boss of the cable industry" by recruiting guys who can't make their ideas agree with math or measurements. 

Hmmmm.... The boss of the cable industry doesn't seem to have arrived. I don't understand. I was hoping he'd show up and tell us how Nelson Pass doesn't know what he's talking about or measuring. Guess I'll stop holding my breath. 

It would be interesting if the first 3 AudioGon members are still using the DIY cables. Please chime in. The latter 3 are not AG members.

https://imgur.com/a/tgGNIvB

I swapped mine out for solid silver cables. Partly to tidy up on the cables in what is a fairly tight space.

Wow! 4 gauge solid silver. That must have set you back a bunch.

Not quite. I didn't stick to the rules about gauge for these.
And I was on 0 gauge before. :)

I ended up not playing... I wanted to though as I was curious but as the thread went on I lost interest. Interesting thread and been fun to read but I agree with most and question the OP for being so secretive on his formula. Instead of blowing the money on the battery cable I bought a couple power receptacles and am very happy with that purchase.

I’m getting a bad feeling. 😥 Damage Control! Damage Control!

And, maybe an adjustment to the "formula" ?

For tnose who have endured his long inane ramblings on the various turntable forums, I propose we crown Mr b4icu the "Raul" of speaker wire theory

Conrad, I would be interested in your opinion of the silver speaker cables. I am using silver interconnects, like them and have been thinking of trying some.

I'm very happy with them.

I got 2x1m and 1x2m cables, each with 8 silver solid core wire, cryo'd, with built in jumpers at the speaker ends, solid sliver spades, and made with silver solder. Each cable is in a teflon sleeve, then litz braided, then covered in an outer sleeve. Additionally I had mine covered in nylon braid, just for aesthetics.
I also got 5x1m XLR cables. Total cost was £540.

I'm was going to get some clearday and cabledyne cables as well, to compare, but clearday aren't making any more and cabledyne aren't in stock.

As for sound, they're very nice. Not too much added brightness, a little more clarity and transparency, and better instrument placement. I think I'm limited by my physical space now, rather than any component or cable.

So far I've tried: van damme blue (not highly rated), 0 gauge battery cable (a step up from van damme, but that might just be a cable maintenance issue), kimber 12TC (nice, but a nightmare to work with).

I've got to a point where I'm probably going to stop looking at cables for this system until I move. Once I have a larger room with better dimensions I'll come back to them. At the moment I feel I've got about the right level of price vs performance that I can get in my current space.

Thanks for your input, I think I am going to give silver a try, I only need a 5ft. pair as I have limited space too...