Speakers positionning


I just try a new toe-in for my speakers, and it worth the move.  Instead of crossing the focus behind my head ( at position seat), now it cross in front of me at 2 feet.  The highs are well defined and present  with well blend music and no more edgy treble at "forté" passage...  But it depends of your room and speakers...  You can read more about here:
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/speaker-positioning-toe-in.321814/
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Another factor to consider is the space between the speakers.  In general, the farther apart the are, the more toe in may be needed.  Hard to imagine, for instance, that speakers 12 feet apart sound their best with no toe in.  Each of us has their own preference for sound.  Some may prefer to be totally in the speakers direct sound field, others prefer the sound of their room's reflections.  All good ideas here to experiment with.
The best test in your own room with your own system is your own ears. Although I find that bromide quite irritating, it's true. But there are tools to help one calibrate. My speakers sound best with no toe in at all, according to the manufacturer, but my room is not a Rorschach pattern. That is to say there is no right/left symmetry. Nor is my hearing equal in both ears.

The best tool I've found is the Isotek set up CD.
http://fatwyre.com/isotek-ultimate-system-setup-cd
https://www.musicdirect.com/accessories/IsoTek---Ultimate-System-Set-Up-Disc-CD

After using the CD, My soundstage is wider, higher, deeper and more precise. It took a few hours, but I wound up with my speakers CLOSER to the front wall and toed-in very slightly and my listening chair moved closer.  The first time I used it, the CD led me to have my Left speaker toed OUT slightly and the Right toed in severely. It sounded a lot better than before; but it didn't sit well with me so I used the CD to help me arrange furniture and then the speakers again. Now it sounds even better.  I re-use the CD every time things change in the room.

Speaking of distance between speakers, it’s a common misconception that wider apart is generally better. As fate would have it most speakers should actually be placed closer together than they are. Check it out. Once you overlook the closer together position you will never find the optimum position, which depends on many factors. Do the math.

Obviously depends on the size of the speakers and room. I think there is a critical distance, for any pair of these components that cannot be shorten. Then you may widen it as long as you feel that the sound remains unified. Once you hear that it becomes dispelled, you know the correct range.

As to the toe in, all the speakers I have seen, sound better without any toe in. The sound gets mixed and undefined with a more or less notable toe-in.

All three pair of Thiel speaker I have (nothing to say about the sub), sound equally good from any point, whether you are in the ideal triangle position, or at an edge. I even sometimes enjoy hearing the music from the back of the speakers.

I think a pair of descent speakers should posses similar properties.


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