Bybee Audio tweeks. IQSE

I always get a chuckle out of Bybee threads. 😆

I bet some of the Kool-Aid drinkers probably made fun of Geoff’s designs.

You guys are freaking out about nothing. The original QSE added a battery with the wood version. These are a similar design, but for inside components.

As long as your components have power, you’ll be fine. If your system uses battery power, use at your own peril.

It is a passive device, whether there is the battery or not. Once the battery does die, it will become like the original acrylic QSE. It's also possible you can replace the battery, as you already have access.

The battery supposedly helps retain or extend its active electric and magnetic field. I have no clue as to why Bybee made the batteries such a hush hush subject. Parts Connexion originally had information about it with the wood QSE. They've since removed it.

If your gear is plugged in, then the IQSE will mostly draw from the electricity. If your gear is battery powered, it draws from the batteries, shortening their life.

One our Audio circle guy's." NO $100 TWEETS could improve his system." Which comprises of Vac Pre-amp & Amps diving Magico Q5's speakers. I took (3) IQSE over to his home.Placed (1) under pre-amp (1) each @ amp mono block 450 amp.

His has multi band sound generator/with a Calibrated mike. He works for Intel and has a lot Top line test gear                                                          

TEST#1 Mike 1 meter from speaker and no IQSE's (PINK NOISE)

            70db the monitor display With memory locks @ amplitudes

0 to 50 on the screen. @ 70db the signal peaked@35 with some overshoots. NOW the acid test.

TEST#2 With IQSE's No change with test instruments

PINK NOISE peaked@ 33.with absolutely no over shoots.

What seems to me the ISQE's removes or clean-up information or un-wanted garbage in it, which in turn our ears notice.

                                                                Maybe not garbage??

This is my problem with Bybee products. They throw out the baby with the bath water. Its definitely not all garbage, along with the distortion.

It's akin to high res microphones that throw out musical information to have lower distortion. The microphones usually sound sterile. That's a worst case scenario.

If you, your friend, and all of the Bybee lovers are happy with the final sound, that is all that matters. Then the measurements, or worry about what it's made from, shouldn't matter.

Jay23,

I still feel we were mislead with this product and hiding the battery within it is what is deceitful. And there is NO way to replace that battery without destroying the unit. The battery doesn't draw from anything except its own battery power.

ozzy

Thats fine. You're entitled to your opinion.

Is the copper glued or soldered to the battery? If it's glue, it should be removable.

The crystals draw power to create their "active electric and magnetic field." This is what drains power from the internal battery. If your components use battery power, those batteries will also be drawn from, if the components are not plugged in.



tubes444,

You're "Lost in Translation."

"I highly doubt Mr. Bybee would mislead anyone"..

The fact that the description of the original QSE said it included a battery, and the iQSE was described as totally passive, (suggests) otherwise.

To my knowledge, it was only advertised as having a battery in ONE place. And this was later removed. 

geoffkait:

So what? My Clever Little Clock is battery powered but I would call it a passive device. Depends on how you define passive. The Tice Clock plugged into a wall outlet so I would tend to call that clock an active device. 

slaw:

That’s what I posted earlier.. "the definition of passive".

The older (external) version is marketed as having a battery. The newer version is marketed a totally passive. There-in lies the difference by the manufacturer.

I’m just pointing out the misleading advertising from the manufacturer. Seems pretty clear to me.

geoffkait:

I think you might be misunderstanding what I wrote a little bit. I’m saying that Mr. Bybee like me doesn’t consider that a battery powered device is necessarily an "active" device. So battery powered and active are not necessary synonymous. I describe my clock as battery powered but I don’t refer to it as active. It can be placed anywhere in the room. It’s passive. It’s not connected to the audio system anywhere, not the AC power, any cables and doesn’t interact with acoustic waves in the room.

I'm in agreeance with Geoff on this. The device is passive, and it's still a fully working passive product after the ~10 year lifespan of the battery.

Will it work as well as with the battery? Probably not. For this reason, I agree that Bybee should be more forthright about the batteries.

That said, have any of you compared the acrylic QSE to the wood QSE?

As to the product, if you like the IQSE, I think the battery issue is a stupid reason to not buy it. Many premium tubes cost more, and many won't come close to lasting 10 years. They also won't provide any use when they die.

I agree about questioning the one year statement. Have the batteries in your wood QSE died? 

You can't compare it to a watch battery. That is the only source of power for the watch.

Not to poke the bear, but if there are still any IQSE lovers here, Jack Bybee now recommends using 10 for room treatment. This isn't the first time crystals have been used for room treatment, as I'm sure Geoff will appreciate. The details can be found here: 
http://tweekgeek.blogspot.com/2017/09/from-jack-bybee-using-bybee-iqse-as.html

geoffkait:

That's weird. The guy in the article at Tweek Geek mentioned Sonex in the same breath as the Bybee stuff and Shakti Halographs. Anyone who takes Sonex seriously must have serious hearing issues. One of the worst materials ever foisted on naive and gullible audiophiles. I'm not very happy they used the name of anti static product, Sonic Tonic, I can tell you that. 😡

Did you trademark the name?


Lak, I've used the Stones and On-Lines.

geoffkait:

Sonic Tonic, Machina Dynamica. Been there for years. Doesn't anyone use Google anymore? 😛

Well the following link shows you weren't the first, and no live registered trademarks were found.

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:qort2q.2.4

geoffkait:

But no previous Sonic Tonic for audio tweaks. That's kind of the point, no?

If you actually care about enforcing a trademark, then no. You don't really have a right to be upset, if you don't bother to register the trademark.