Over the good part of this past year I’ve been beta testing a new tweak, the name of which is "Total Contact." Its a hi-bred graphene contact enhancer that is different from all other contact enhancers that have come and gone for one reason or another. I’m not new to these contact enhancers, having had quite a bit of experience with a product developed by the late Brian Kyle and his "Quick Silver" contact enhancer. The "Total Contact" is different ... a LOT different.
"Total Contact" is graphene based and is not a vibration control. It eliminates micro-arching between two contacts. Micro-arching, much like Micro-vibration smears the sound in our stereo systems. Its the type of distortion that we don’t know is there .... until we eliminate it. There is no break-in as we know it. The sound is improved right off the bat, but what you hear is only a smidgen of what’s to come.
I tested three generations of "TC," each of which was an improvement over the previous incarnation. The final mix was cryogenitically treated and made for a more effective, much smoother application. It comes in a large hypodermic needle type plunger containing 1.5 ml of product and includes a instructional DVD and an application brush.
The application should be applied with a very thin coat to all of your electrical connections .... from your cartridge pins to your power cords. I did my entire system, including the ends of my fuses.
Upon initial application, you will notice an improvement in clarity, correctness of tonal balance and a more overall organic sound. But ... that is just scratching the surface of what this magic paste does. As it cures, the improvements become more apparent. Much more!
There are two real break-through events that happen almost to the day with "Total Contact," one at four weeks and another at eight weeks . At four weeks, you’ll get a real jump in clarity and overall improvement. That’s only a taste though of what’s to come at eight weeks. At eight weeks your system’s focus will make a jump in SQ that is so real - its surreal.
After 40 years in the hobby, and a total tweak nut, I have never heard anything that does what this graphene paste does. The see-through clarity at eight weeks becomes simply amazing. The "paste" eventually cures into a kind of polymer plastic and it seems that the sound improves with each listening session. So, its important that you leave your contacts alone for the duration. If you’re the type of person that continually switches wires in and out, you’ll have to re paste until enough time has elapsed to get "the cure."
The only problem I had was with the first batch and that had to do with shorting out a tube pin in the line stage. Use the "TC" very sparingly on tube pins, if at all. I only had problems with the line stage tube pins. The Amp, CD Player and Phono Stage has had no tube pin problems at all.
Tim Mrock, one of our fellow A’goners, is the developer of the product. Its taken Tim 15 years and several patents to get it right. Tim has "pasted" every electrical contact he can find in his audio system, all of the switches in his circuit breaker box, every contact in his car ... and has used it in commercial applications such as hospital circuit breakers, surgical lights ... and other places where efficiency and long life of electrical components are deemed important.
This product is highly recommended to anyone who truly wants to get the most out of his/her audio systems. There’s enough product in each tube to do at least two audio systems as it just takes a very thin coat on each application to be effective. The last tube was enough to do my system twice and then a friend’s system this past weekend.
Frank
PS: There were a couple of other A’goner beta testers of this product as well. Hopefully, they will chime in here with their experiences for comparison. I "pasted" both of Steve Fleschler’s systems a few days ago, perhaps he will comment on his results too. We forgot to paste Steve’s power cords though, so there’s a lot more to be had from Steve’s two fantastic systems.
You asked so I will share about sil-clear, only because I had a lot of experience with it, and it was not positive at all. Starts ok, seemed promising. did stop the micro arcing. At around a month the sound started going south, trying to remove it was a nightmare!!! Thank God I had not put any in my electrical system. I also wondered how they could sell such a large amount for so little? Want to know the answer? Take some put a drop of nitric acid on it and let us know what happens.
It is not my intention to crap on other enhancers, I have sat quietly and watched this truly revolutionary product dragged through the mud, along with my name, and reputation. My point with above example is there is nothing even close. Would you rather ride a horse or drive a indy racer?
I am scheduled to get the total contact today. I just need to know if I need to “clean” off the applicator brush or do I leave the residual from the application on it? If so, do I need to put it in a ziplock bag to keep it “hydrated”? If I need to remove the residual, do I use rubbing alcohol?
You totally mis-read the intention of my post! My post wasn’t intended to be a comparison between the two products. I thought if anything, you’d see I am coming around towards possibly ordering! I had mentioned earlier in this thread that I wasn’t a fan of Sil-Clear. I was just responding to shadorn’s post., with an inquisitive ending regarding any binder used. wow!
@resolution1 Ziplock will keep it in suspension for a while, keeping it in the freezer will prolong it. Worst case, if it hardens on the brush, it will easily clean off, so the brush can be reused. My phone number is on the instructions, so do not hesitate to call!
I predict that "slaw" will become one of the most positive advocates of Total Contact.
Who here likes chamber music? I was listening to this with my morning coffee. With the entire system now pasted with the latest incarnation of TC, the musicians were spread all the way across the sound stage beyond the left and right speaker. The sound stage was in three dimensional relief with each player in their own space. A bit uncanny, if you ask me.
I’m a big fan of Harmonia Mundi recordings. This one is really good. Highly recommended.
All along, I was a somewhat skeptic but kept my ears open. When I had a valid question, never was taken seriously. Now, that I’ve been taken somewhat seriously, I was totally misread by the manufacturer.
Slaw ... read the entire text from my opening post on page one to this post here. I have clearly stated that I am not a principle in the organization, nor had I anything to do with the development of the product. I’m just a fellow audiophile who was lucky enough to be chosen by Tim Mrock to be one of his beta testers.
I was/am so taken by the product that I enthusiastically presented it here, only to be personally attacked, called a shill, intimated that I was dishonest, a liar, etc. Again, anything negative that came from my keyboard was in self defense and the defense of a small businessman trying to get his new product into production and consumer use in the face of a few here who were obviously out to destroy him.
You seem to have a negative attitude toward commissioned salespeople, slaw. If that’s the case, why? I’d love to have that conversation with you ...
You’ve taken issue with the way the product was "rolled out." Again, read my initial post on page one of this thread and point out any negatives you see. Thanks ...
And speaking of Harmonia Mundi recordings, here’s a real winner:
Well, when my CLEAR intention earlier was towards the (positive) aspect of the product you endorse, then, (finally) got a response from the manufacturer that was totally misread, I HAD SERIOUS QUESTIONS.
See.... Now I'm being dismissed again.
If as a BETA tester, (whatever that entails in a (business sense) includes a commission, YES, I think that has a bearing on the entire discussion here. I don't "have a negative attitude", if it is a clearly stated objective/benefit of the BETA tester. I'm sorry if this kind of transparency may offend you.
things happen on forum threads, especially with trolls slinging their mud around. Don’t let it keep you from trying TC. It really is amazing, well before 4 or 8 weeks, and Tim is a good guy.
Slaw, here was your first question in the thread. It appears on page one:
@oregonpapa ,
Now.. what I need is an evaluation of the "blue" fuses w/wo this new coating. Is anyone up for this?
Here's my answer on page 2:
I tried the SR Black and the SR Blue fuses without the "Total Contact," and with it. With it was clearly the better option. Like the other applications to power cords and IC's for example, the results are the same type of improvement in SQ. So go ahead ... paste the end caps of your fuses and you'll get an improvement there also. Another one of your statements:
@perfectpathech
Perhaps you should have chosen jafreeman as your Beta Tester?
How was I supposed to take that, slaw?
Your question: If very little is needed to treat a system, why isn't it available in a smaller quantity? Maybe this would alleviate some concerns.
My answer: You're getting 1.5ml ... enough to do a large system plus video. Save the rest or share with a friend. What "concerns" would you like to alleviate?
Your answer: The shelf life of a new/unknown product.
Overbuying a brand new product that isn't refundable. It seemed like a valid question, don't know why it would be tested.
Why what would be tested, shaw?
Your statement: If I was the manufacturer. of TC, ...I'd have grave concerns regarding my initial product roll-out, VIA this, (way).
Have you found any negative statements in the initial "roll out" post on page one?
Again, you said: In spite of how this product was rolled out to us, I always had interest in it.
Again ... read the initial post on page one. Find the negatives. Thanks ...
See.... Now I'm being dismissed again.
How are you being "dismissed again?" No one is "dissing" you. All of your questions have been answered in a positive manner. What you are reading into the answers is beyond me.
And finally, your last statement:
If as a BETA tester, (whatever that entails in a (business sense) includes a commission, YES, I think that has a bearing on the entire discussion here. I don't "have a negative attitude", if it is a clearly stated objective/benefit of the BETA tester. I'm sorry if this kind of transparency may offend you.
I was "on the hook" . You're GUY , cut the hook!
DEAL WITH IT!
Uh-huh? What? For the third time ... there are NO commissions involved. And I'm not offended ... but you seem to be in a perpetual uptightedness situation. What's troubling you, shaw?
<Sheesh!> man, let it go ... buy the product when you're able and enjoy the results.
Since you went low... I'll just remind you of other instances in which, (you chose for your own benefit, not to respond to a simple question)..
On the Synergistic fuse threads, I have made a comment or asked a question that wasn't threatening, but you never answered. Why? Was it that I again wasn't taken seriously? I'll give you an opportunity to respond here. (Unlike , just a while ago when you assume my intentions.)
Obviously, you are free to do what you choose, and I respect that. I just hate to see a fellow music/audio enthusiast pass on something this amazing due to misunderstanding/miscommunication on either side.
Did you read my last post where I chronicled our discussions? Please point out where I "went low." Thanks ...
"On the Synergistic fuse threads, I have made a comment or asked a question that wasn’t threatening, but you never answered. Why? Was it that I again wasn’t taken seriously?"
I see, slaw. So it was something I DIDN’T say? Could it be slaw, that I just didn’t see your question?
It's kind of ironic now, that this discussion has evolved to the level it is now, after those who try to sell this product have deduced that I'm no push-over, Now, are finally making some concessions in their language,.
Maybe at some point, I'll try it. YOU MISSED YOUR CHANCE WITH ME!
Hopefully you'll learn from your treatment of me and people like me that we can respond with our sentiment and out pocketbook.
I just spent a half hour chronicling all discussions held between me and slaw in this thread. So far he has given no concrete answers on where he was treated with disrespect, other than to say that I didn't answer a question he had posed in a completely different thread.
There are folks in this world who, if they had both legs cut off ... would still kick.
It's kind of ironic now, that this discussion has evolved to the level it is now, after those who try to sell this product have deduced that I'm no push-over, Now, are finally making some concessions in their language,.
Maybe at some point, I'll try it. YOU MISSED YOUR CHANCE WITH ME!
Hopefully you'll learn from your treatment of me and people like me that we can respond with our sentiment and out pocketbook.
Slaw ...
Nope, you're no push over ... even when no one is trying to push you over.
I'd say that the chances of you "trying" TC "at some point," is between slim and none ... and has been from the very beginning.
"Treatment of me and people like me..."
People like you, slaw? What type of people would that be? Try to be specific please. Thanks ...
So far, you haven't pointed out any mistreatment or disrespect other than to say that I didn't answer a question you had in the Blue Fuse thread.
Keep searching for the disrespect shown toward you by me, slaw. I don't think you're going to find it .... especially if the best you can do is to say that I didn't answer a question you had in an unrelated thread.
The very fact that you're both taking so much time to disprove my posts, ( when you previously, (I assume, approved them) is a factor in other's thoughts as to how to go forward with this company.
Get over me and try to improve your company and it's quasi-employees.
^^^ Disproving your posts? I/we don't disapprove or approve your posts. You're just not that important, slaw.
"is a factor in other's thoughts as to how to go forward with this company."
Uh, slaw ... Who are these "other's" that are you referring to?
The sales are going along quite nicely without you. So far there isn't one complaint, just amazement about the effects of the product. Are you reading the responses slaw? Have you read Steve Fleschler's comments? How about Tommylion's comments?
"You’re just not that important, slaw" (( oddly enough, I (was) oreganpapa’s darling, he said, "I may be TC’s best proponent" or something like that)). now... Well... which is it Frank? You say one thing when it feeds your interests, but quickly turn on that VERY thing that fed that interest.
(I had logged off.. never to reappear here again. My human nature said... just one more time... Then I read the above.)
People, are these types of remarks towards me, just because I have a disagreement with the company and their BETAs...
...do they represent the type of people YOU want to deal with going forward in any endeavor?
If you, in the future, have an issue, do you feel you will be treated in any other way?
Do you honestly believe that we are here to make you happy, slaw? I/we presented our case regarding the product and treated you with respect, and yet, you continue to whine and moan as if someone kicked your cat. Honestly, you are not that important.
"This was from a representative of a brand new company that's trying to increase sales???"
And you have done nothing from the beginning other than to attempt to destroy those sales. You are not making a difference, slaw. Could this be what's troubling you?
@oregonpapa Says, "Do you honestly believe we are here to make you happy?"
YES!!
Isn’t that what any company is there for? The customer? You seem to have a twisted view of a relationship when things go awry from your twisted view of your mixed relationship w/ TC.'
Actually, (THE) trouble is, YOU trying to make A CASE for someone else (ME) to have a reason for your ongoing mistakes in the way YOU rolled out/ then responded to others for this new product!!!
So, I was thinking,...Why would a decent, respectable person such oregonpapa, try to disrespect me,( someone who just disagreed with the way he and his masters) tried to make the case for my (not) wanting to purchase their product???
By the way, I painted both ends of my new LG TV power cord with product. Noticed much improved picture. For the UVa Duke game in HD I noticed more solid colors, more vivid colors, more solid and darker black, more shimmer and gloss on the court, very natural face color. Super duper.
@slaw I have no dog in this fight. I just got a bit behind on this thread and after reading the last couple pages of postings, the first instance that I can imagine you would have taken offense was over the misunderstanding of your Silclear question. oregonpapa's response seems reasonable to me, simply pointing out that Tim Mrock would be bonkers to let his binder be known at the genesis of his product roll-out. Tim flat out apologized for misconstruing your post. I'm not sure what else you would want him to do to make amends.
I feel a little like a guy on the gridiron in the striped shirt here. I think most good folks today are offended a bit too easily. This tiff never would have happened in a face to face. Body language and the ability to jump in and correct a misperception would have nipped this unfortunate circumstance in the bud.
I sense more civility from all of the relevant players in this drama. Perhaps everyone takes a step back and start fresh. Slaw I have no idea if TC is good stuff or not. Everything we know so far is anecdotal. Perhaps some of the claims and applications of TC have seemed a bit over the top but the players seem genuine and decent as do you.
I'll send you guys a bill for my totally unsolicited and completely amateurish counsel.🤩
I only have one Master slaw ... and He walked the earth over 2000 years ago. Which "master" do you answer to?
Actually slaw, I spent the afternoon over at Mribob’s home pasting his wonderful system with TC. Unlike you, no one has kicked my cat today, so I go on about life with a positive mental attitude. Suggest you do the same.
" I was a potential customer..."
No you weren’t. You’re an adversary and have been from the start.
" All of the sudden ... oregonpapa/TC’s spokesman says... slaw, you don;t mean that much to us..."
Nope, that’s not what I said. Post it if you can find it.
" Why would you want to deal with a company that disrespects it’s potential buyers/customers verbaly (HERE) and seems to be proud of it?"
I have the right to defend myself, do I not? Do you honestly believe that I would just sit back while a few ... a FEW naysayers try to kick my ass and then make an attempt to run Tim Mrock out of business?
" Actually, (THE) trouble is, YOU trying to make A CASE for someone else (ME) to have a reason for your ongoing mistakes in the way YOU rolled out/ then responded to others for this new product!!!"
Mistakes? Name them. The way I rolled out then responded to others? I’ve asked you repeatedly to read the long initial post I made on page one of this thread in the "roll out" and then post what you found to be offensive. So far, nothing but crickets.
Responded to others? Again, go back and reread the entire thread. I only responded negatively to the arsonists, the looters and the destroyers. They were responses to personal attacks. Again, its called self defense. What is it that you don’t get, slaw? Are you taking my responses to others personally? If so, that’s kind of weird, don’t you think?
"So, I was thinking,...Why would a decent, respectable person such oregonpapa, try to disrespect me,( someone who just disagreed with the way he and his masters) tried to make the case for my (not) wanting to purchase their product???"
Disrespect? I’ve tried to answer every one of your questions in a positive manner. Again, go back and read the thread from the beginning.
In my humble opinion slaw, you have every right not to buy the product. Its your money and your choice. But when you try to dissuade others from buying it based upon who knows what ... considering you haven’t tried it yourself, haven’t seen it, felt it ... .well, that’s a bit weird too. Guess what slaw, I don’t care if you buy the product or not. Again ... you are just not that important.
By the way slaw, just so you know ... Mribob’s system was sounding better than ever when I left his home. His Venture speakers are fantastic. The TC left his bass sounding very articulate, full and organically natural. He made the comment that its the best mid-range he’s had so far. Considering his system, that’s saying a ton. Its only going to continue to get better from here on as his TC cures. But see slaw, you won’t be having that experience with your system because your nose is so far out of joint worrying about what other people think about you, coupled with an inordinate fear of being taken advantage of, that you would cut off your nose to spite your face by not buying and/or experiencing the product. Too bad for you, I’d say.
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By the way, I painted both ends of my new LG TV power cord with product. Noticed much improved picture. For the UVa Duke game in HD I noticed more solid colors, more vivid colors, more solid and darker black, more shimmer and gloss on the court, very natural face color. Super duper."
You have described my experience with my rear projection 73" Mitsubishi TV. Better blacks, sharper picture, better colors ... almost a 3-D experience. "Super duper" indeed.
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