Since all this is clearly becoming very tiresome, I would like to try and resolve it this way:
There is a huge amount that has been written and stated on these topics by (imo) legions (literally) of authoritative sources that supports my point of view; not difficult to find this info at all. It would defy logic that if there was any validity to the counter-argument that there would be, at least, SOMETHING written SOMEWHERE to support the opposing point of view. I hope that we can, at least, agree that our humble little playground of a thread is not the only place where disagreement has been expressed; if there is any. I pose a challenge: let's see that material; kindly post some of it. I don't have a problem with being proved wrong and would welcome it.
There is a huge amount that has been written and stated on these topics by (imo) legions (literally) of authoritative sources that supports my point of view; not difficult to find this info at all. It would defy logic that if there was any validity to the counter-argument that there would be, at least, SOMETHING written SOMEWHERE to support the opposing point of view. I hope that we can, at least, agree that our humble little playground of a thread is not the only place where disagreement has been expressed; if there is any. I pose a challenge: let's see that material; kindly post some of it. I don't have a problem with being proved wrong and would welcome it.