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clio09,

“That being said, those Tekton fan boys have nothing on the TRL vs. APL Hifi fanboy threads. Those threads were legendary and make today's seem tame in comparison.”

Very valid point and I remember those days,I had no dog in those brutal fights,I just read them and was simply amazed.

Kenny.

@mrdecibel 

Well, my rub with the snake oil is that on more than a couple of occasions I've seen it beer bonged down some unwitting victim's throat in a way to suggest that unless you're drinking the oil, you're not REALLY serious about audio. It was just the other day I came across folks trying to sell a guy on crazy priced cables for his $2000 speakers by making some pretty radical claims about what those cables could do. 
So let's say this guy took the radical advice and dumped a quarter or half of the value of his speakers into a pair of cables. He's not going to hear those overtly pronounced alterations in the sound he's being sold on. Is he going to respect this community for letting the radical voices go unchallenged? Maybe he'll sit there and listen until he believes he hears new things because he wants to so badly on account of a rather insane purchase. Is any of that good? Most of us here have restricted means to blow on gear. It makes a lot of sense to be analytical about our choices. Opinions from strangers aren't analytical, objective analysis. That kinda leaves us with science. So.... If analytical decision making is part of the scheme, and it certainly is with me, I'd like a bit of proof when it comes to claims. 

But kosst, why does it matter to you ?, this proof thing. I use my ears. When I change out a piece of gear, a cable, different footers for my transport, fuses, whatever, I decide if I like it or not. Obviously if I hear no difference, it gets sent back. When I do hear a difference, and I almost always do, I live with it a while and determine if it is an enhancement to my system. If I find I enjoy my system more, great. I keep it and pays my money ( or I might try something else ). That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. Many of us here on the Gon, and elsewhere, share these findings with each other. And then, you come along ( and I know you are not alone ), and do what you do. Why should it matter to you ? When many of us hear these differences, science becomes less important, unless we want it to be. But we are who we are, and it is what it is. Science is your thing. I respect that of you. But, if you do not try some of this " snake oil ", as you put it, then just leave it alone. You are not god, that we need to provide you with proof. BTW, I am on a limited income, but save for my audio toys. Always, MrD.

 I tried to be civil and not rude, however I don't think it is rude to request scientific information for products with these crazy claims. I have built somethings and feel I have a bit of a grasp of the technical side, so some of the claims just make no sense whatsoever.   It is OK to be challenging, that promotes learning. The challenge lies in how to be challenging without being rude.