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I noticed  that lately or maybe for the last five yrs, there is so much arguments,name calling, attacking cables , speakers , components makers and more, more of disagreement with members, even Audio dealers are being attack here...Very few know how to apologize when they are wrong.What can we do as Audiogon members to improve our communication to each other? How to give the informations, recommendation to members who need it? This is without involving Audiogon, any opinion or ideas ,  For me this is fun and place to learn in audio...thank you all
jayctoy
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@mrdecibel 

Well, my rub with the snake oil is that on more than a couple of occasions I've seen it beer bonged down some unwitting victim's throat in a way to suggest that unless you're drinking the oil, you're not REALLY serious about audio. It was just the other day I came across folks trying to sell a guy on crazy priced cables for his $2000 speakers by making some pretty radical claims about what those cables could do. 
So let's say this guy took the radical advice and dumped a quarter or half of the value of his speakers into a pair of cables. He's not going to hear those overtly pronounced alterations in the sound he's being sold on. Is he going to respect this community for letting the radical voices go unchallenged? Maybe he'll sit there and listen until he believes he hears new things because he wants to so badly on account of a rather insane purchase. Is any of that good? Most of us here have restricted means to blow on gear. It makes a lot of sense to be analytical about our choices. Opinions from strangers aren't analytical, objective analysis. That kinda leaves us with science. So.... If analytical decision making is part of the scheme, and it certainly is with me, I'd like a bit of proof when it comes to claims. 
But kosst, why does it matter to you ?, this proof thing. I use my ears. When I change out a piece of gear, a cable, different footers for my transport, fuses, whatever, I decide if I like it or not. Obviously if I hear no difference, it gets sent back. When I do hear a difference, and I almost always do, I live with it a while and determine if it is an enhancement to my system. If I find I enjoy my system more, great. I keep it and pays my money ( or I might try something else ). That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. Many of us here on the Gon, and elsewhere, share these findings with each other. And then, you come along ( and I know you are not alone ), and do what you do. Why should it matter to you ? When many of us hear these differences, science becomes less important, unless we want it to be. But we are who we are, and it is what it is. Science is your thing. I respect that of you. But, if you do not try some of this " snake oil ", as you put it, then just leave it alone. You are not god, that we need to provide you with proof. BTW, I am on a limited income, but save for my audio toys. Always, MrD.
 I tried to be civil and not rude, however I don't think it is rude to request scientific information for products with these crazy claims. I have built somethings and feel I have a bit of a grasp of the technical side, so some of the claims just make no sense whatsoever.   It is OK to be challenging, that promotes learning. The challenge lies in how to be challenging without being rude.   
 And for the record I have tried aftermarket fuses and used to believe and magical wires and so on… Until I learned more about how things worked and learned that many of their claims were literally an impossibility.    Everything in the world must conform to the laws of science so I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for scientific explanation for some of these items and claims.   
 Many of these believers would benefit from some reading into expectation bias.  When you think you are hearing a difference many times you simply can't trust yourself. I myself would want to know the truth and not want to bury my head in the sand  while spending thousands and thousands of dollars on items that do literally nothing.  
 The long and short of it is I think many just cry foul when their sacred beliefs are challenged in anyway.   Granted I do see rude behaviour on the forums but it comes from both sides of the fence.