High fidelity REVEAL interconnects


For $699 HF costumer service, said it can compete with the Odin, apparently this cable is available for shipping a week before Christmas?      Agoners any opinion?
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jayctoy,

My wife is really good for me. We have been married 43 years! I think I got married when I was 10.

Yes, the XLR Reveal’s are very stiff and bulky at the ends making it difficult to connect behind the rack, near the floor and under other connections. So it takes a little swearing to get them connected.

jmcgrogan2,

Yes I have about 16 of the MC-05’s. It may be a case of too much magnetism. I will re connect the Reveal’s this evening after burning them for 24+ hours on another system.

misterbritt,

A little more to this saga. I have Grand Prix amp stands and I found that I had a speaker connection bent tight under the acrylic shelf. Perhaps too tight, sort of like dampening the floating shelf.

I have since straightened out this connection and the amp stand is now able to float freely on there cushy pads once again. So, I’ll try the Reveal’s again this evening.

Thanks guys for your help!

ozzy.

@ozzy, I'm guessing you know this but I thought I'd mention it just to be on the safe side. If you have the Reveal's in another system burning them in for 24 hours and then put them into your main system you will have to wait for (I don't know how long) for the magnetic conduction to really take effect.

Any  cables need to settle, burn in cables my experience is 6 days, with magnets maybe longer...Lak is right.
These HF cables are so intriguing that I had to buy a pair. I should have my CT-1 IC's next week and I'm looking forward to hearing what they bring to my system. Like others here I'll be pairing them with my Cerious GE speaker cables. I appreciate the info here and will give them the proper time for their magnetic properties to become established before evaluating them. I have high hopes for them. I'll need another pair of IC's when I add a pre amp and will be looking at the Reveals and CT-1's. 
Thanks jayctoy. I won't be getting the new pre for a couple of months or more so I'll have some time before needing the second pair of IC's. While patience isn't normally a virtue of mine, you're so right.....patience is the key to really evaluating changes to our systems and figuring what, if anything, needs changing. I think extra time is needed for the Graphene in the GE cable and the magnetic properties of the HF cables to settle in. I'm quite happy with the GE IC's but something tells me the CT-1's will be even better. 

Just put the Reveals back in the system. Still not a fan. The music sounds flat compared to the Cerious cables they replaced. I'll play them for a few more days before I switch them. I have them between my Direct Stream Dac and the BSG QOL. I may also try them from the QOL to my preamp next.

It may be a case of too much magnetism with my 16 MC-.05's.

ozzy

Good luck ozzy. I'm currently running the Cerious GE IC's from my Perfectwave to my amp and will be trying the HF IC's next week. Worst case scenario for us is that we go back to the Cerious cables and there's nothing wrong with that.  I'm not using any MC .05's so maybe I'll have better results. 
I think I can share my way overdue experience here. I'm just letting you know that this is within the constraints of my system and, therefore, very subjective.
I had two comparison sessions with the Reveal IC cables. The first was after about 1,5 weeks of burn-in and the other after about a month (a little bit more than that). The difference between the two sessions was audible, but didn't make a substantial change in character, just in development. At the second session I had my brother with me, who also has trained ears, although we listen differently (with "trained" I mean we both are musicians and have experience with music production, although he does it for a living and I do it for fun). The comparison was made with my current ICs and with with volume level matching as well as I could (there was still a tiny difference, which we took into account). My current ICs cost more than 3x the Reveal so I had a very real bias towards them, since I would have been able to sell mine and invest more into other parts of my system.
Overall the Reveal is a great IC that, most likely, will better any of the competition in its price range that I know. Since I haven't had many in that price range, nor have had the chance to compare please take this comparative statement with a grain of salt.
In my specific setup and situation it faired very well, providing a fast and balanced result.
Compared to what I have they were equal in speed, width and, maybe, with a tad smoother upper mids. What it did lack, comparatively, was the black background that I get with mine, which I normally associate with a lower noise floor. Normally a lower noise floor gives greater depth, separation of instruments and voices, more body, better texture and more accurate colour and this was the case here. If I had to compare visually it would be comparing a good Plasma to an OLED TV. The OLED actually made the blacks on my Pana Plasma look greyish and low-level detail in dark scenes became comparatively washed-out. This is the main difference between the cables that I have and the Reveal. I'm not sure I would feel this way without having had them side-by-side, but once I noticed it was impossible not to.
Before anyone jumps to conclusions a couple pieces of information:
1. I went to great lengths in having the my current cables (from a Cable luthier that doesn't have a site, isn't from the US, so this is not an attempt to make him more popular) and compared them extensively to Shunyata Anaconda and SR Element C/T/S ICs. That means that they are a good fit.
2. I am very detailed in my research and analysis and maybe some here know me from CA under the same name, where I shared my comparisons for USB Cables.
3. Again, I honestly wanted the Reveal to be a better fit in my system for the aforementioned reasons.
Lastly, my results and opinion should not detract from the fact that this is a great cable. It could simply mean that my current cables may just be making up for areas that my system lacks in order to give me a better result, so please don't take my opinion as being an absolute statement. It is what it is and YMMV.
BTW, I'm not sure who compared these to Odins, and I've had Nordost cables and am not a fan... but whoever did that comparison might be well advised to look for bottlenecks in their system. Odins are insanely expensive, but they are very, VERY good cables.


Markr kept the HF ic, but he is using CT GE speaker cables, he has very interesting post in this thread...
It may be a case of too much magnetism with my 16 MC-.05's.
I thought never too much magnetism?   I bet Reveal just not for you.
Hi ozzy
The High Fidelity cables each time you move them from one system to the next or in different place in the same system, will need  at least  a weak to get up to speed.
enjoy Pete

@reverendo,
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts on the Reveal Interconnects and to spend the time you did with the audition. They are not for everyone and/or every system.
Nice to read the review from a person that allowed a proper amount of time to audition. :-)!

69pete,

Many on this thread say they sound good right away. I couldn't take it anymore and had to take them out.

Do any of you have the XLR version? Perhaps this is the problem?

ozzy

Hi ozzy
Sorry to hear they did not work out for you. Ozzy you have much more knowledge of audio than me, but are they going the right direction? RCAs would be harder to tell than the XLRs. Also  want to make sure the tips are clean on the interconnect and at the connection of the unit you are plugging them into. I have not tried any of the High Fidelity XLRs.   I use Transparent Reference xl MM2 xlrs in my simple system. Would like to try some of High Fidelity XLRs, but the price of the mid level or higher in a meter and half or longer is just a little out of reach for me now. Its been cheaper and easier to just add the MC o5s. and i have not reached a beneficial end with them yet. I did try the High Fidelity speaker jumpers and ending up buying 3 pair of them for my speakers.
good luck Pete

68pete,

With XLR's there is only one direction they can go. I think the Reveal's are the only ones HF offers in the XLR version. I personally think there is something wrong with that design.

ozzy

Ozzy sounds like it's time to send them back, there's plenty to try out there if you want to. If they did not match there is nothing you can do.
Ozzy,
if I were you I would phone Rick at HFC and have a discussion with him regarding your issue and see what he has to say or suggest.
The HFC’s didnt work in the past for him so why would the budget line HFC REVEAL change that??? Just because they are XLR?? I would send them back an enjoy what you have. Your wasting your time.

Ozzy...if you go to the HFC website, you will see that all the HFC lines come in XLR.
Ozzy maybe your ears  and gear are tune with CT  graphene cables, I still wonder why they did not match your system,.just return them, don't keep something that does not work, or make you happy.

 I previously trailed two different sets of CT1-Ultimate SC between ARC amplification and ML CLX transducers, and really did not get along with them at all, even the dealer had to agree, that on my particular set up they were a baffling step backward from my incumbent SC's, as tho the CT's were struggling with the challenging load of the CLX, creating a distinct bottleneck.

I might have a play around with the newer line SC's ??? however unless they are significantly less capacitive than the CT1-U's then I am not confident of the synergy I would be seeking.
If I was you, I would contact Rick at HFC. I am assuming your referring to the Reveal line SC’s

How long did you have the cables in your system?

I assume you had at least a few hundred hours on them?

I might have a play around with the newer line SC’s ??? however unless they are significantly less capacitive than the CT1-U’s then I am not confident of the synergy I would be seeking.

@tsushima1,
If I were you, and in the market for a pair of speaker cables I would seriously consider the Cerious Technology Graphene speaker cables. 

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jmcgrogan2,
That problem was corrected with the new current HFC speaker cables being produced. I had my older HF CT-U speaker cables totally upgraded at HFC to the current HF CT-U speaker cables this past summer. A total 100% positive change. With that said, the Cerious Technology Graphene speaker cables are one step behind knocking on the door, and in my second system. Do the math, LOL, but don't remind me of the sum...please John, don't remind me! 
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John, I have not tested the resistance of the new cables with a multimeter. I loaned my multimeter to a friend and it has not been returned yet. When I get it back I'll check the resistance.
@aniwolfe, Both were dealer demo sets however they were both in situ for a good couple of weeks worth of play time, I'm quite aware of the requirements of HFC cables as I run a set of Ultra IC's.

Thanks for the suggestions gentlemen, I shall send both manufacturers an email.
Tom finally I got the Reveal ic and the mc o5, this combo did raise the level , of my system beyond my expectations, instruments texture are real, with energy added to the music, Listening is effortless. I met Ric very very nice guy, his crew are top notch....I will be back at Axpona again today...the show is better this year....
Took 4 months for ya :)

Glad you enjoy the combo. What speaker cables are you using?

Hello jayctoy
Did Rick-High Fidelity have any of the new speaker cable adapters on hand?
Thanks Pete
Pete, I spoke to Davis personally, customer service guy, very nice guy , He said they might show up August, hopefully earlier, but there are no new adapters yet.
I believe if you can utilize Rics product properly they are hard to beat..I went back today to buy onother ic Reveal, but they were sold out earlier...so I bought one more mc05.
On my system they work good near power conditioner or power cord , close to amp....
Thanks jayctoy for the info. I hope they are out sooner will see Rick and crew early June at the LA audio show.
After two weeks I have the HF Reveal ic, and one mco5, Iam continue to be amaze, it made system so alive and retain the musicality, after I listen to Markr system couple of months ago, I went home to listen, all my systems sounds so boring, even though before going to his house, I knew my systems did sound great already.The problem I can't figure it out, what's going on...until I bought the Reveal ic and mco5.then I heard and felt the fresh liveness music at markr system, he has one of a heck good system...
Markr use 3 mc0.5 , and one ct1 HF interconnect in his sysyem, CT speaker cables.
jayctoy, I'm glad you are liking what you hear within your system.
I've also found that the CT speaker cables sound very good regardless of what system I put them in.
Thanks Bon (Jayctoy).... as Bon says, I have both, a standard CT-1 IC and a Reveal IC; both are great sounding ICs, and I can easily recommend either, but they are somewhat different sounding in direct comparison in my system, so matching to your system would be important. Both are being rotated between my preamp and amp, while a Teo GC IC sits between my DAC and preamp. After a week or so of careful listening, here is what I hear between the two HFC ICs, (in my system , with my ears, in my room, etc, etc, YMMV):
Reveal vs CT-1:
- Revs are a touch fuller-bodied (more emphasis on midrange on down) vs. CT-1
- Rev's soundstage perpective pushed forward a few feet vs. CT-1
- Rev's images not quite as crisply defined, and a little less air; CT-1s have a touch better detail
- Revs seem a tiny bit louder
- Revs are looser fitting wrt the RCA connectors; the CT-1s have a vice grip

I like both, and can easily live with both!

Bon has my ICs as of today; I am going on vacation, and waiting for my Omega HO SAMs (replacing my standard Omega SAMs) to arrive in a week or so. Maybe he will share his opinions....

I will try my best to post how they will do on my systems..my initial impressions both Teo and CT graphene IC, I could tell they are amazing cables....both organic..I will try to post Sunday night because Markr is kind enough to leave me also his Ct 1 HF, I will compare it to my Reveal ic..
Reading the thread of Teo, Reveal, and Cerious Technology, gave me the impression , that this Are all very very good cables. It’s only a matter of synergy....The Reveal ic I added to my existing Reveal ic to my main system , indeed gave the main system the most realistic effortless music , instrument texture and tone are to die for...the Teo GC sounded good as well, but a bit thin sounding for my Andra , but they made the pioneer sb22 sound like highend, they beat the Elac b6 the way they perform with Teo, With the right synergy Teo GC, will will give you unbelievable dynamic , and musicality your system can ask for..The Cerious tech GE ic, did perform very well on my second system, the diapason adamantes finally woke up, the bass showed up, this ic it has a huge soundstage, it flesh out music effortlessly,I tried my technics sb700 monitor the result was the same, really did match the system. I would recommend to audition this three ic, they are very good, just buy the one that will really match you taste and your systems....there is 30 days trial to some of this cables....Markr thank you for borrowing me this cables, they are truly special, no wonder your system sound really really good.... The only way to find out is to experience it on your own system,,,, like I said this are amazingly good cables...,,

Well guys, I must retract my previous statements about the Reveals. With only one set in my system placed between my Dac and QOL yes as I stated previously I did not care for them.

But... when I added a few more pair completing the interconnect loom I must say ...gulp... I am very impressed.

Yes, the Reveals are very good interconnects. I never had the chance to compare them to the Teo’s but I am probably better off staying with completely balanced interconnects throughout anyway.

ozzy

@ozzy
A lot of people seem to like the combo of the HFC ic's and CT sc's. Maybe your experiencing that as well? Welcome to the family lol
The Reveal XLR is noticeably better than the RCA.  I had one between the Codex and the Hautonga, and it sounded very nice.

aniwolfe,

Yes, That is the way I’m heading.

respected_ent,

I once had the rca HFC "Ultimates". For whatever the reason I do prefer the Reveals. But, it could be the XLR vs. the RCA.

ozzy

I received my Reveal XLR interconnect yesterday and it has been placed between the DAC and Preamp. I am told that it takes around 200hrs to fully settle in the system. It replaced CT GE interconnects and am using Zenwave D4 from the preamp to amp. Have been listening since yesterday but so far I am not impressed and I am hoping it will get better over time. What has been your journey throughout the break-in process ? How did the sound change over time ?   
Debjit magnet has to settle don't disconnect them, wait at least 3 to 5 days, my experience they settle after 4 days....