For $699 HF costumer service, said it can compete with the Odin, apparently this cable is available for shipping a week before Christmas? Agoners any opinion?
Well, here is what I was told by Hi Fidelity, "each signal cable is individually shielded with the coaxial design outer casing, the ground is then terminated together."
So, my take on this is that each signal cable also has a outer ground shield to reduce/eliminate possible RFI/EMI.
Does anyone know what the cost is to add additional wave guides to the Reveal power cord is? And how do they compare to the original power cord line up? Why do they do not have a 20 amp power cord?
Don't get me wrong, I really like my full loom of HFC in my main system and some in my secondary system, but I do agree with jayctoy the prices for the Reveal products that start at $999 are inflated. I don't want to start talking about the more expensive HFC, been there did that. I agree that the sound of HFC (I've not heard the Reveal) is something very special in my system, in a good way. I don't doubt that the Reveal is a winner also.
I wish all the Reveal products can start at $699 like the IC. $999 does seem a bit too high and less affordable. I don't know if the material cost is high or what. I have the IC, and I really like the improvement it did to my system. I may give the MC-0.5 a try later since it has received a lot of positive comments.
They can sell more pc if it will start $699.its only one meter for $999.iam talking about 2m for $699.For less than 1k like cerious cable pc it's only $249 , Nordost heimdall 2 it's a good contender for less money, will see.
Lak, i may be wrong but did you like the combination of GE speaker cables with HF interconnects? If so, which HF interconnects? I thought it was you that posted on that, but I don't remember which thread it was ( getting old can suck, but sure beats the alternative!). I only ask as I really like my GE speaker cables but might want to try something a bit more revealing than the GE interconnects. Thanks and my apologies if you're not the one that made that suggestion.
@mac48025, You are correct, I think the GE speaker cables are excellent! I have used them in both of my systems with great success and am still using them. The interconnects I'm currently using (and have been for over a year or longer, probably a lot longer) are the High Fidelity CT-1UR in my main system and the High Fidelity CT-1U in my second system. I hope this helps?
Thank you lak. Both you and Calloway enjoying the same HF/CT cable combination. That's saying a lot as you both have an impressive collection of components and I value your opinions. I'm looking at the CT-1's or possibly the Enhanced interconnects and hopefully they will suffice......I'm sure they will. Thanks again for your input
Is it true Reveal ic they don't have magnet on the connector? That's even better, no need to clean the tip of the connectors.
This is precisely the reason I'm avoiding them. From my experience the more magnets, the better even adding A MC 0.5. If you don't want magnetic connectors, there are many many options.
@mac48025, If you can swing it go for the CT-1E interconnects. I've never heard the Reveal products but that's a possibility also. They are configured differently, therefore, I don't know how they compare to the CT-1 or the CT-1E. Knghifi might make an excellent point from above. Personally, I'd phone Rick and ask him for his opinion.
Another happy user here of the mixed loom of CT Graphenes and HFC CT-1s!
I've used complete sets of both looms, and they turned out to be "too much" of a good thing, individually. For months now, I've been running CT speaker cables and an IC from preamp to amp, and an HFC IC from DAC TO preamp. I have a couple of CT power cords in use, as well as three HFC MC 0.5s. This has turned out to be a stellar combination for me!
BTW, I don't get a massive paycheck like some here do, so I am limited to just the plain ole CT-1, but that's sure not a bad thing!
Thanks lak, I'll definitely give Rick a call when the time comes to get new IC's. The CT-1E's are what I'm shooting for. Thankfully I have the GE interconnects with the GE speaker cables, which are quite nice, but as Mark pointed out it can be too much of a good thing. The CT-1 or CT-1E should add a little sparkle to the mix. Thanks again for your input.
@hawkrising I think the issue right now is that after the initial batch they released around Christmas of last year they have run into a production delay. Specifically, they were until this week waiting on parts.
The saga is unfolding on HFC’s homepage at Facebook, where one can watch videos and updates. It seems the parts came in this week and production is being ramped up. Meanwhile, aside from the initial run, no one has had his order filled and shipped.
I have an order in and I intend to post my impressions here when my shipment arrives and is installed. So I don’t think there is so much a lack of interest on this thread as there is a lack of product. Let us hope good things come to those who wait.
Help me guys on this, I was about to order the Reveal ic, then suddenly I thought waiting for the new adapters will be better, my reason is using adapters I can choose different interconnects ,don't know how good is the wire being use on Reveal...thanks Bon
@jayctoy, By adapters, I'm thinking that you are referring to the "HFC, Magnetic RCA Adapters that will give you a taste of what magnetic conduction technology can offer. Simply fit the directional* adapters onto your current cables and hear the benefits of magnetic conduction"?
If I am correct they will work on any RCA interconnect, including the Reveal interconnect, assuming someone wanted to use them. I thought the beauty of the Reveal interconnect was that it was supposed to sound better than many higher end interconnects at a much lower cost.
I would hope that all parts on the Reveal interconnect would be first class.
@jayctoy I installed the power cords two days ago. Because they were part of a bundle of Reveal cables I received and installed at once I’m not sure how I might even address this. There are simply too many variables, including initially putting them straight to the wall, only to retreat back to where they can be run through my Shunyata power conditioners. That’s where they are now. I bought a pair for my power amps. That’s germane to what I’m about to inform you.
A couple of quick observations: If you plan to stack them direct one atop the other at the wall duplex you would need to either a) pull back the thin insulation/protection bands at the connector or b) plug them in to separate wall duplexes. The bands make them just slightly too large to stack one atop the other. However, if you just roll back the bands on one of the connectors then the remaining bands on the second cable’s connector will fall in to the grooves of the other and you’re good to go. Make sense? Look at the pictures and you’ll note the bands I’m discussing. They make the connectors just a hair too fat to stack in a duplex.
On the other hand, if you are plugging them in to a power conditioner, as I am now doing, you should be good to go if you have enough outlets that they don’t have to be positioned directly next to one another.
The cables themselves seem to me to be identical in construction to their more expensive offerings, the difference being at the connectors and the egg-shaped magnets that sit midstream. I won’t speak for them that the cable itself is the same but it visually appears to be the same to me. They are pretty heavy and are more flexible than many of the gargantuan in girth cables out there, such as the Shunyatas I am replacing them with. I like how they look. If you have any HFC items already, I would say each cable from Reveal on up is just as flexible as the next and, again, I think the cable itself is identical.
Please wait for me to return with something more substantive to offer as far as the sound. While they were apparently cooked at the factory before they shipped, I’m guessing they still need some quality time before they should be evaluated.
I had got things up and rocking recently and the ports on my loudspeakers partially closed up. (They are Tannoy Canterbury SEs which rely on natural friction to keep the sliding ports open -- not ideal in my dry climate and at serious rocking volumes.) So my initial thoughts were that they were bass shy but that might not prove to be the case. I’ve opened the ports back up and they are sounding much fuller.
Off the bat, I would say the articulation and micro-dynamics are excellent. Percussive instruments like bells, chimes and shakers are coming in with great definition. But, as I say, the tonality had shifted in my room and now I need to spend more time with them. That, plus the fact that I installed some Reveal interconnects at the same time make a proper review difficult. I plan to come back with more but I wanted to cover some housekeeping and let you know I’m still on this thread. I’d look forward to others’ impressions as they come in.
@mrbritt, Thanks for your response and the information that you have been able to pass on up to this point. I have no experience with the HFC Reveal line however, I owned and use the HFC CT-1U and UR power cords, interconnects and speaker cables for several years now. As you know you can run your power cords directly into the AC outlets in the wall or through your Shunyata power conditioners. I want to caution you regarding break in time. I'm guessing that all of the Reveal product line is still going to need at least a couple hundred hours to break in. (As I said in another thread): I’ve learned that there are lingering effects that are present for several days when using HFC's and that might (usually does) add to the sonic signature of other power cords including interconnects that’s being substituted for the HF power cords and interconnects, etc. Also be aware that comparing HFC products to other products is very difficult and frustrating because of the lingering effects of magnetic conduction, and the slow restart up of magnetic conduction.
Do the Reveal sound good right away or do they require substantial break in? I just tried the XLR verison after being plugged in overnight from my source. So far I'm not too impressed compared to the Cerious, kinda dull with limited bass and treble.
If I am trialing only one set where should it be tried, at the source (Dac), preamp or at the Amp?
Do the Reveal sound good right away or do they require substantial break in? I just tried the XLR verison after being plugged in overnight from my source. So far I’m not too impressed compared to the Cerious, kinda dull with limited bass and treble.
If I am trialing only one set where should it be tried, at the source (Dac), preamp or at the Amp?
ozzy
Funny I had the opposite experience as you. The Cerious (200hr burn in ) were dull, no bass, lacked highs. I felt the Reveals brought everything to the table, yet retained a very musical non analytical experience.
I have my Reveal interconnects connected from my Dac to my Integrated Amp. I felt they sounded good right away and got better up to 100hrs or so.
Ozzy and Aniwolfe remember you have different rooms and gears and cables. I know both cables are good, with excellent reviews, system matching does always matters...Ozzy according to Rick they need hours n hours to break in. I know you know that...So please let us know after 100 hrs at least....why there is 30 days trial...
Thanks for the information mrbritt. While I'm quite happy with my Cerious IC's and SC's but want to try HF IC's since many here have experienced great results with the combination. I was planning on getting the CT-1's but if I can get by with the Reveals my pocketbook would be greaty pleased......especially since I'm adding a pre amp to my system and I'll need two pair of IC's now.
Ozzy.....I don't think those IC's are going to work out for you, just box them up and send them to me. I'll take good care of them for you ;) If only it was that easy! Please keep us posted as to how the IC's work out for you. At the risk of asking a stupid question, do you have the IC's installed in the proper direction? From everything I've heard the HF IC's should not be dull, but that could easily change with some more time on them. Good luck.
My HF adapters did that to my other system on the first day, on my other system after 2 hours they sound the opposite, I guess different system different result, Ozzy maybe your ears are tune with CT cables at this time, although at times you can easily figure out, won't match your system, don't they match your CT ?
Yes, I tied the HFC cable before. But, the Reveals are finally in XLR so I thought I would give them another chance.
mac48025,
They are XLR's.
jayctoy,
I suppose I will give them some more hours to burn it. Plugging them back in is a pain. They don't flex much and want to go there own way. Come to think of it, it reminds me of my wife...
A couple observations. @ozzy You were asked to confirm the directionality and subsequently replied they are the XLRs; meaning they could only go one way because the male and female connectors will dictate that. I’m convinced you have them pointed in the right direction, which is with the arrow tip always pointed "downstream," the ultimate downstream destination being the speakers.
Now as to burn-in. I installed a pair of Reveal XLRs between my preamp and my amps this past weekend. They have less than a week’s burn-in on them. I think they get a little better with time but nothing real dramatic thus far in my experience. Mine, however, sounded great right off the bat.
Soon after on that same day I also installed a pair of Reveal power cables but I did have an hour or so with just the XLRs and knowing it takes time for the magnetic energies to take effect I still thought they sounded great even before burn-in and other settling effects on my system.
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