Alex, PM sent. Pick me a winner! nsp, Yes Sonny Rollins is the man. Every time I cross the Williamsburg Bridge I think of him up there practicing in the wee hours of the night because after he saw Trane play he thought he was missing something. After a 3 year hiatus of practice he came back with an excellent album aptly titled "The Bridge" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtY9hpg7sicSpeaking of King Crimson, here is a good one from them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ3UnGQCT1E |
Oh was not aware that you live in the Balkan's. Shipping from there would not be worth it. But if I'm ever in the area I'll make sure to head your way. |
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Thanks mary jo,
Looks like everyone over here in the states went to bed early last night!
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orpheus10,
Brazilian music of all kinds definitely has African roots. The city of Salvador, in the province of Bahia, was the original capital of Brazil as it was here that the first coastal trading hub into the interior of Brazil was constructed after Pedro Álvares Cabral discovered the continent of South America and claimed it for Portugal. Although no longer the capital of Brazil, Salvador Bahia (that is the proper way to say it - the city then the province), is still an important city there and my favorite to visit.
I have been to Brazil a dozen times. Rio 3 times and Savador, Bahia 10. Rio and Salvador Bahia is like comparing apples to oranges. In Salvador Bahia the population is a 50/50 mix of black people and white/mixed. Since slaves were bought and sold in Salvador Bahia they settled there after slavery was abolished. The many cultures of Africa still exist in the city and province from food to music. A favorite dish of mine, called Moquecca, is available in just about every restaurant. Its made with Dende (palm leaf) oil. There is also a unique religion that exists there that's kind of a mix with Christian and African orgins.
frogman,
You are right about easily recognizing Jeff Beck with just a few notes. I mentioned that upthread. I can also recognize Jimi with the same quickness. McLaughlin, as you said, is not so easily discernable.
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orpheus10, Thanks for sharing the link to that movie. I had heard of the runaway slave towns but never that particular person. And you are correct, the culture in Salvador Bahia is so unique/diverse. I will tell you this, and your might wonder how, but there is absolutely no racism in Salvador Bahia. Percentage wise, I would say its 35% African Brazilians, 35% Portuguese Brazilians, and 30% mix of the first 2, called mulattos. There exists no racism from either of the 2 dominant races towards each other, The African Brazilians seem to have no lingering bitterness from the slavery era and the Portuguese Brazilians get along with them fine. Hence the high percentage of mulattos. Their are many Mulatta woman who can, IMHO, take there place as some of the most beautiful in the world. The only prejudice that exists is between the Native European Portuguese whos still live in Portugal and consider all Brazilians "below" them. Of course the Portuguese dialect differs. Did you know that the main language spoken in the state of Angola in Africa is Portuguese. That came about because of the Portuguese "slave hub port" on the coast of Angola where the Portuguese would pay coastal natives to go inland and capture inland native people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6IG-CZW5N8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KpIV57PSeo&t=1088shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlI5eTr5a-0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJkxFhFRFDAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgQLOSpG4EMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrZBiqK0p9Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeBDoNBNMro |
SV's version of Misty from the "Sassy Swings The Tivoli" 2 disc set I have sounds incredible as does every song on both discs. Sarah really had it going on that night! In a total 360 I'm going from Sarah Vaugh to Frank Zappa. That's right - Frank Zappa. He recorded a plethora of albums that fit into the jazz fusion category and even had a "big band" on many of them, sometimes with as many as 20 instrumentalists. I am a big Frank Zappa fan so maybe I am a little biased when I give my opinion that he was one on a short list top all-time of musical "Geniuses" of the 20th century. For Calvin (and his next two hitch hikers) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMgMK59KFJoThis link is Frank introducing his big band with his typical sly humor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0z6EXD1kRkBig Swifty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSVfGNYSDzQThere is much "jazz" in the 2 songs above! |
Thanks acman3 for those links. I like the song Stinson Beach from the second link much more then the first.
There are not many people that appreciate the brilliance of Frank Zappa. I have been a fan since my high school days. I believe he put out over 50 albums. He was head and shoulders above his rock contemporaries back in the 60's. However he does have some albums/songs that I'm not too crazy about but what musician is perfect? For the most part I would say I like 90% of his output, some a lot and some a little and 10% duds (IMHO).
I think Frank would have appreciated the music you posted above.
And so would Nanook and the Muffin Man!
He died to young and god only knows the music he would have continued to put out. I would like to think he is up there with Jimi and Miles and Coltrane jamming in Joe's Garage!
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Thanks pryso for those links. Tight band and I like their take on Peaches En Regalia live a lot. I'm going to search if they have a live disc! |
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Thanks frogman for those links to Jimmy Cleveland. I just ordered a 4 disc collection of his: https://www.amazon.com/Classic-Albums-Plus-Jimmy-Cleveland/dp/B0754B78G6/ref=pd_sbs_15_2?_encoding=U...I love the sound of the trombone. I have all of the "Trombone Shorty" recordings he put out plus multiple discs of Jack Teagarden, Curtis Fuller, JJ Johnson and Kai Winding to name a few. I do not think Joe Lovano sounds like John Coltrane (JMHO) Inna, Don’t be so sensitive your contributions to this thread that I have seen are ok by me. Nobody is perfect and the persons who think they are will also tell you their crap don’t stink! |
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orpheus10,
Thanks for the Kenny Clarke and Oscar Pettiford links. Very cool rendition by Kenny Clarke with a phenomenal line-up of musicians.
And Pettiford's take is just as good!
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frogman I agree 100% that Nina Simone is not in a league with Sarah Vaughn. I never really like Simone's vocals, nevermind her piano playing.
Sarah Vaughn, IMHO, is on a short list of greatest female vocalists in any genre.
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orpheus10,
I think Nina Simone's (Eunice Williams) playing and vocals are just ok, and IMHO not on par with countless male or female piano players.
Same with her vocals. I could easily name dozens of female vocalists that I like better.
I have heard a lot of her recordings and nothing really "stands out" to me but this is just my opinion and the conclusions I came to after listening to her music. I know by your continuance of posting her links and info about her that she is one of your favorites. Am I correct?
If so that is cool. Everyone hears things differently and sometimes agreeing to disagree without insults is the best way to go.
Just my 2 cents.
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I prefer the piano playing of Eliane Elias: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGU3tUM0zSwAnd her vocals are pretty darn good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlI5eTr5a-0I saw her live at the Blue Note NYC in 2009. I may not be a connoisseur of jazz music in the eyes of anyone but I don't care. I like what I like and to me none of the Nina Simone or whatever her name is links that were posted stands up to my 2 links above IMHO. I do not judge I listen! |
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alex,
Did you send out an LP?
I have Das Boot Blu Ray remastered the multi channel audio mix is incredibly good!
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alex, No rush on the LP whenever you have spare time. I like this version of Mood Indigo by Nina Simone. A little up-tempo then the others I posted but I like her version. Definitely a finger snapper! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5euaoFlU87g |
For anyone who is interested the "Complete AT The Village Gate" Sonny Rollins CD was released on May 12th 2015. I had no idea of this release until it popped up when I was ordering another CD on Amazon. I had not been searching for Sonny Rollins discs on Amazon for many years now because I have pretty much everything was put out by him. Just goes to show that you should always be checking for new releases by your favorite artists or you could miss out and have to pay a much higher price for it when its out of print. Anyway here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W4L0MWO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1You can't go wrong for 23.99 I have mine already and I listened to disc 1 of 6 and its really good stuff. Don't miss out! |
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While typing my last post above I listened to the 22:24 long cut of St. Thomas through my laptop via an ARC headphone amp/DAC combo and on into my 1More open end over ear headphones and simply put it is now my favorite version of this great tune penned by Sonny Rollins himself and I've heard him do plenty of versions!! |
frogman there was a few negative remarks on some of the Amazon reviews about the interplay between Sonny and Donald Cherry but this is, IMHO, is what makes this complete set so interesting. I listened to disc 1 and the first track, Oleo #1, almost 28 minutes long, is an indicator of what's to come.
I don't know if discs 2-6 were remastered in the same way but if so what a score!!
All instruments out front and equal in the mix. Cherry's horn through the left channel and Sonny on the right. Another thing I love about the discs is the long lengths of the songs. Some jazz listeners view this negatively and make remarks like "it gets redundant" and so on. But not this disc. The jam sessions are long and complex with a solid foundation laid down by Cranshaw and Higgins.
Sonny and Donald both stretch out on long solo's and the rythm section of Bob Cranshaw and Billy Higgins is super solid backing them up and also taking solo's. When you hear the pace Cranshaw on the bass your going to wonder whether he had blisters on his fingers because the pace is just that - "blistering"!!
From 17:30 - 20:30, Higgins plays an outstanding solo that starts slow and ends in a whirlwind giving Cranshaw his only break from the blistering pace on the bass.
The tempo of the song slows at around 22 minutes with more cool interplay between Rollins and Cherry that continues until the end of the cut.
A solid 5 star review for disc 1
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frogman that has to be the same version I just listened to on the new 6 disc set. Its the 3rd song on disc 2 which I just finished listening to (the whole disc 2). But in this set you get all the songs in their entirety and, even though the one you posted is obviously not cut short I read that any prior releases to the 2015 6 disc set cuts many songs short and does not include (not even close) all of the songs played during the nights they played. |
Earlier Sonny Rollins with the MJQ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHX5nGzNFVIYou could here is genius even then! Percy Heath on the bass. I never met Percy but I worked with his son Stu in construction out on the east end of Long Island. Percy lived in Montauk. I remember Stu surfcasting under the lighthouse and pulling in one Striped Bass after another, many over 40 pounds. Stu fished at that rocky point and caught fish after fish while everyone else was getting snagged on rocks!! |
It was the way Stu applied the rythm to reeling in.
The Striped Bass will stay underneath the Bluefish during a feeding frenzy. Therefore a surface lure will not get snagged but you will hook more Bluefish then Striped Bass. Stu would use a 2oz White bucktail with a white pork rind strip attached to the hook. You have to let this lure sink and then reel in slow and steady.
The problem is all the jagged rocks beneath the surface out there that you could get snagged on. Stu would cast into the same area, let the lure sink and start reeling in and he never got snagged or "hung - up" as we call it. It was like he put a spell on his rig!!
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frogman, I have both those discs you posted the song links from.
When I first bought the live Village Vanguard disc I almost wore it out playing it. That was way back before I put my whole music library on my laptop in FLAC format. Over the last 5 years every time I buy a disc it I immediately rip it to my laptop then store it away in pristine condition.
Yes that Village Vanguard recording is a piano-less trio with Sonny out front, Wilbur Ware or Donald Baily on bass, and Pete La Roca or Elvin Jones on the drum kit.
The funny thing is, on the 2 disc set that I have, Sonny introduces Donald Baily and Pete La Roca before the opening song on disc 1 (A Night In Tunisia), but nowhere on either disc does he introduce Wilbur Ware or Elvin Jones.
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nsp and frogman thank you both for the info on the Rollins Village Vanguard shows. Pete La Roca is something of an enigma. I have his first solo disc Basra and he was no slouch behind the kit. According to Wiki he left the music business and went to law school: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_La_RocaReview of Basra from All Music: It is strange to realize that drummer Pete La Roca only led two albums during the prime years of his career, for this CD reissue of his initial date is a classic. La Roca's three originals ("Basra," which holds one's interest despite staying on one chord throughout, the blues "Candu," and the complex "Tears Come From Heaven") are stimulating but it is the other three songs that really bring out the best playing in the quartet (which is comprised of tenor saxophonist Joe Henderson, pianist Steve Kuhn, and bassist Steve Swallow in addition to La Roca). "Malaguena" is given a great deal of passion, Swallow's "Eiderdown" (heard in its initial recording) receives definitive treatment, and the ballad "Lazy Afternoon" is both haunting and very memorable; Henderson's tone perfectly fits that piece. https://www.allmusic.com/artist/pete-la-roca-mn0000840710/discography |
frogman, thanks for the links on accompaniment.
A perfect example of correct accompaniment would be McCoy Tyner (accompanist) and John Coltrane (soloist) in the song "My Favorite Things"
Even someone with limited knowledge of sheet music, chords, minors and majors, ect., can clearly hear the excellence exhibited by Tyner comping Trane.
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frogman, I have everything TYA ever put out and then some! Alvin Lee was heavily influenced by American jazz and blues. He covers the standard blues tune "Good Morning Little School Girl" and jazz "Woodchoppers Ball" with his blazingly fast guitar out front as with all of his recordings. The thing about me, which seems to separate me from a lot of the members posting on this thread, is that when I really got into jazz, at age 40, and became obsessed with jazz (I have 5x more jazz music in my library then any other genre), I never trashed my rock/blues/metal music and still listen to it often. I highly recommend this CD: https://www.amazon.com/Live-Fillmore-East-Years-After/dp/B00005K1ZD/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&a...It has been remastered and released in its entirety and Alvin really "goes off" soloing for 13 minutes on the blues song "Help Me" |
mary_jo,
I first heard Annie Lennox in the mid 1980’s with the Eurythmics. The song was "Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This" and, although at the time, I was into the music of Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and the like, something in her voice stuck in my gut.
Here I am 30 plus years later still in love with her soulful, soaring, and at times highly emotional singing, with the Eurythmics and her solo sessions. Annie recorded an album of jazz standards in 2014 at the age of 60 called "Nostalgia" that, IMHO is outstanding.
Then again, my feelings about Annie’s vocals are shared by the worldwide masses and she has sold millions of records over the years.
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Thanks nsp for the ongoing updates on the Sonny Rollins VV sessions. I hope they release another disc with the complete sessions day and night.
By the way, you had mentioned the group Soft Machine, I believe, a while back. I just picked up volumes 3-7 in a 20 dollar box set and the albums "Bundles" and "Softs" which adds guitar into their stuff.
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R.I.P. Jerry Gonzalez I still plan on going to the Larry Willis And The Heavy Blues Band show Friday evening October 19th at 7pm (1st show). Larry Willis was a former bandmate of Jerry Gonzalez. http://www.smokejazz.com/index.php/calendar/ |
pryso,
Glad to hear you still dig other music genres. Although when I really dove into jazz later in life and realized what I had been missing, I occasionally find myself in the mood (actually more then occasionally) for my rock, blues, r&b, and other music in my library.
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alex, I saw your favorite live list. Excellent choices. I was not even aware of the Coleman Hawkins Village Gate release. I already ordered it thanks! One of my favorites, right off the top of my head at 6am, is John Coltrane's "One Up One Down-Live At The Half Note" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1kcr-dTdew&t=747sIt is a 2 disc set featuring extended soloing by Trane and his quartet. The sonics are not great but very listenable. They recorded it live while it was also broadcast live to a local jazz radio station in NYC. |
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