Thank You mrs_ppt. Very kind.
I appreciate it.
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I am excited.. I just ordered two 13"x 19" E mats for $46 from Amazon..
(the Omega is 7.5" by 10" and cost $599 each. way way better!
Oh.. I think they called the ones I am getting Refrigerator magnetic chalkboards.. My mistake, never mind. I am real certain the magic mojo in YOURS are way way more mojo’y magical and all that. They MUST BE for $599 a pop.
But thank you for the idea..... I can draw some fancy magical QUANTUM stuff on mine to make up for being so cheap.. .
BTW... Please tell my why my cheap junk will destroy my stereo.. I am certain you want to make sure no one is foolish enough to follow my example.
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’spoiling for a dustup’? Nooooo... I like folks who have a great idea and run with it.
i guess I am just pointing to the basic material. I really had not even looked at the E mat but this thread having so many posts, got me the read a few entries of the latest posts. Well, same sort of praise as the black goo sort. Amazing, fantastic, unbelievable wonderful, spectacular.. !
So I went to the website and reading it is clear as day, the $599 gizmo is a refrigerator magnet! (they even SAY SO, kind of)
Now this falls into the same sort as my all time favorite: Hallograph, Shakti sticks. Now yeah maybe shakti sticks are an original idea, but they cost maybe $10 to make commercially. sell for $1500. WOW. WOW.
So I just felt the urge to buy some $23 versions of $599 products just to see can they ’do’ anything? I plan on sticking them on the tops of my $40 from eBay five disc changers! I am CERTAIN the $23 forms cannot possibly do as much as stuff which has the added "Quantum treatment’/magic smoke, voodoo treatment... But I’ll see.So it is several reasons.
If you find my behavior childish? Good. If insulting. wait till I actually report the results.. It may be blowing $46 on nothing. (In the audio world $46 is not even money!) Where if I would have spent (the Emat is 1/3 the size of my $23 each magnetic mats. so for the same square inches, I would have had to spend 6 x $599 or $3600. Will my cheap gizmo costing 1/26 of the price (actually 1/78 by square inches) do MORE than 1/78 the effect??? Inquiring minds wish to know...
what a markup. Give me a week, I’l let you know. Magic? no magic?Added... Now the E mat may have ERS paper fronting the magnet base?? unknown. So if so, that would add a few buck to the cost of making them.
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Wow, THAT Charles?? I guess I should reconsider...
Hmmm....
Well
Maybe?................................ ........Nope. Sorry, not enough.And it is sort of curious how any thread about any wires at all get blasted with endless drivel by naysayers.. and here, in a thread of even stranger claims... no complaints.. no 'prove it' queries, just all lay down and worship the latest craze? (I confess I read NONE of it.. why? it is all the same drivel) I guess when you're hooked you're hooked. I didn't even really say anything BAD (until now) , and then the whining. "Why is SHE here?" LOL Skeptic? noooooo.. Not me. I am certain the product is just as good as claimed, I said so. Why don't you BELIEVE me? Maybe you don't believe it yourself? I MUST be saying something bad...
Butt hurt.. butt hurt? I really like that insult., makes it clear you are such a deep deep thinker.
The Hallograph is not a complaint about its function, more about the cost. (Question: is the ebony for a real need, or just to justify some sort of 'well look! it has ebony' Plus the fact ebony is endangered...)
Same problem as this product. I bet it costs two bucks to make, and $599 is so folks don't think it is just cheap. Marketing 101.
The two threads here, both endless love, never a bad word.. Seems fishy as I said when I wrote to the black goo thread. Same folks selling them too. Magic marketing...
Most tweaks are some dirt cheap idea, then taken and turned into a money machine.
figuring out what dirt cheap thing was used as a basis.. that is what I am seeking. If I find it, I will be sure to let everyone know.
Is that why I am 'a problem'? Should have just ignored my posts.. Now I am annoyed. Butt hurt... You were looking in a mirror on that one, it is really funny and just so obvious! Sorry I hurt your butt. Maybe use some hemorrhoid cream for it?
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Can't please.. Excess black bile.. You have too much black bile....
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" What is humour ?"
Humorism, or humoralism, was a system of medicine detailing the makeup and workings of the human body, adopted by Ancient Greek and Roman physicians and philosophers, positing that an excess or deficiency of any of four distinct bodily fluids in a person—known as humors ......
black bile
Yellow bile
phlegm
blood
I believe my answering the question is a form of phlegm.
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The links given by sbayne were very interesting reading.
One key mention I would bring back to illustrate the difficulty in transferring this to some common product is: "" in 2012, persistent spin helices of synchronized electrons were made to persist for more than a nanosecond "" from the WIKI link .
From the third link: "" theory predicts lifetimes of around a microsecond for pristine graphene, whereas experiment shows values ranging from tens of picoseconds to a few nanoseconds. "" |
I see what I have started... Sad....
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Been retired nine years... The first year was the hardest. Mainly the body doing less, it complained. Also eating less, adjusting that too. Then the money, getting used to any differences. But the saving of not buying lunch, not buying coffee break snacks.. other work stuff, like nice clothes.. All save a ton of money.
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I bet you did not tell your wife it cost $599. ??
"It was only $14.95 Honey"...
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E mats cost $599 EACH. By now some of you have at least $10,782 worth of them plastered around??? btw that is 18 of them.
For comparison I bought 18 Furutech duplex... (lucky me on sale)
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What prof wrote +1
What ever drug they are on.. amazing.
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One eats crow when they find they were in error. So far, I see no error other than wasting my time posting on a 'total fan boy' thread.When the gizmo is in every stereo in the World, and I am the last holdout. Then you can send me a dish of crow. I am betting that is never gonna happen, for magic paper or black goo.Not due to lack of trying though LOL
Maybe by then I will develop my own version and sell it for $59.90. not $599.00, Got that patent yet?
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LOL... I tried my ’cheap alternative’ refrigerator magnetic erase sheet under my main preamp. ahh a little too close... So I added another 1/4" spacer from shelf to underside of preamp. better. Added some baggies of ’treated’ quartz bits on top of the magnet pad. gain in clarity now balanced with a bit of warmth. good. Then today I added it (cheating) by slipping a magnetic pad under the glass shelf to test, on my Marantz SA-10. Nothing zero effect. So I took it back out. The SA-10 chassis is copper, not steel. so I wonder if the mat is too far away to affect the circuit board? where with a steel chassis, the steel creates some effect to the circuit boards when the magent is under it? well not gonna move the SA-10 to just bother.
As time has gone by, I am thinking the innards of the Magic paper is a sheet of Sendust, or EMI paper.. Most likely. Since I can buy that for $40.. it may be my next area of messing around.The curious thing with all the praise. no need to move it around, or changes not quite right, and having to adjust. Always perfect and wonderful. (curiously, the last time I complained about this very problem, a post was made having just that! What a coincidence! magic posting as well as magic paper, no joke) Which, means it is plenty of hypnosis. Nothing real happening except money floating away. So I agree with oldtech0, nothing to see there except you money vanishing... On the other hand, the product may work in some, maybe even many cases. the problem is it is not gonna work magic every time. Just is NOT.
So all the praise becomes a pile of fan mail?? Anyway, 34 pages of pure gush. One would think it was a real product? (But note the sort of products that get these magic endless threads.. Crazy sheet no one in their right mind would pay a nickel for.. Black goo to paint on your xxxxx, cure your infertility.. Odd isn’t it. making money by hypnotizing the folks who can fall for a good story. Cool!
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They finally are arresting you Geoff?
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They had to call in the reserves... Danger! Will Robinson, Danger!
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Raise you hand if you are an idiot.. (I raised my hand) Anyone who spends thousands on trivial audio junk no one in their right mind would do.. idiot. yup. sign me up. I confess I am just the idiot you are naming.Now this PARTICULAR stuff would be OK, if only the thread had some honest users, Not fantasy "OMG it made the sky part and I saw $&#^% naked in his true glory" . Like I wrote, 100% gush is a big sign of some scam going on. If not in the product then in the fake amazing wonder of the praise.
Are there threads for anything other? Not some amazing new magic stuff over thousands of posts long and never stopping? Seems to be fishy right off.
Cable posts have ENDLESS naysayers. Yet these magic potions and papers threads have an amazing intolerance of dissent? Like you cannot AFFORD (no pun, the wallet is all that seems to count here) any dissent.since you might lose one waffling bystander, almost ready to reach for their wallet ... OMG they walked instead of buying the bs..Makes the folks in charge angry, the fans angry, Jeesh. What to do???
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Psychic Contamination. Sounds good in a really ridiculous way, so that is the reason.If the product acts at a distance, with no known possible physical actors, then it is either magical, or alien. No thanks.Unless you want to ’explain’ the mode of action using the laws of physics, electricity.(Just to be clear, I have no belief in 'magic' or aliens)
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I have never been very encourageable. Try incorrigible. Way more like me.
I have no ax to grind here. Just starting what is obvious from the way this thread is built. Fan boy mania. Along with a touch of deep, manipulative ’bad faith’. Existential bad faith. Other than that, no problem.Oh, and the fact that when someone turns to personal insults, you know they already lost the actual argument, and are now just throwing things (metaphorically)
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I do. I am listening to music as I type. Wondering what to make for dinner... I thought about starting a thread about the audio lives of retired folks.. But was too lazy to finish it well enough to actually post it.
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I never questioned the fact the people who write the fantastic amazing results who are actual purchasers of the product are not saying what they believe to be true. I have no knowledge though, that everyone posting is a separate person, or if some have used multiple monikers to multiply the apparent users of the product. That there are shills mixed in with users also no certainty, but it seems so. Particularly due to the vehemence of the major players. That the thread as a whole is suspicious? yes, without a question. And to anyone interested in this product, I recommend being very careful about purchasing it, using it, and deciding to buy multiples of it based on any claims made in the thread as a whole. Same can be said for the 'black goo' thread.
There are VERY few other threads (ever) which approach the blatant aggressive promotion present in these two threads.. (in recent history, though the Tekton threads come closer than most.)
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