Synergistic Red Fuse ...

Al's a bit of a fence sitter with things like this.

But to me these fuses are up there with Shaun Mook Mpingo pucks, very unexplainable things going on, can really **** with your head.

Cheers George

OK, try this one for an experiment only, definitely not for long term for safety sake.

Make sure all is working fine and you grown used to how it sounds. Then remove the "red fuse" and bridge out he the fuse holder with some copper wire, you can even tack solder it on the outside of the fuse holder. It should sound the best, if anything at all.

Cheers George   

georgelofi, dear sir, you are sadly confused by only a portion of the facts IMHO.

Facts "IHMO" ?????? please post all these "facts" up by all means, back by some sort of SOUND technical explanations to their advantage to sound quality improvement. Myself, and I’m sure many others here are all ears to hear the "facts" and their technical explanations.

Cheers George

mapman

I have no doubt that no fuse is likely the best fuse for performance but I’ll pass on that. It is what it is. If I need better sound I’ll figure out some other way to get it beside eliminating the fuse that the designers deemed wise to put in there..

Ididn’t say to "eliminate". Isaid to try as an experiment, just like your doing now with these fuses. Cheers George

geoffkait

the old copper wire bypass trick probably actually isn’t up to snuff anymore. Not to mention the unpleasant sound resulting from soldering the copper wire.
geoff at MD

Your kidding right???

What do you think the yards of traces under your circuit boards are made of??? Copper!!!

Cheers George

After all that was YOUR claim - that a straight wire bypass would outperform an aftermarket fuse.

Technically YES, if one is a technician and a betting man you would put your money on the "temporary" 10mm piece of copper wire everytime, unless one is a voodoo’ist then your a believer that pigs can fly. That’s why this sort of thing is not getting any reco in the "Tech Talk" forum and should not be given it as well. Unless these fuses are resistive, capacitive, or inductive in nature, then there are grounds for a technical discussion on them, and if they are any of these then they can only be detrimental to performance in the power supply chain.

Cheers George

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I decided to switch the direction on the black fuse on the dartzeel amp after all because lack of bass weight was bothering me.

The improvement was immediate with the bass weight slam back and the soundstage easily improved from the red fuse.

it goes to show that experimentation is always necessary and trust your ears ......

Direction change on an AC fuse for different sound???

http://audiofast.com/prods/recenzje/6moons/6moons200507_NHB-108/max_21.jpg

Cheers George

http://highend-electronics.com/products/audio-magic-premiere-beeswax-super-fuse

Here are some normal fuses pumped with bees wax, but I found that if I saved my ear wax and injected it, it was soooo much better, the difference was night and day, and my ears were cleaned out as a bonus.

Cheers George

Well said Whitestix
 There's way too much voodoo in this industry that not substantiated with any technical explanation offered.

EG: Shun Mook Mpingo room treatment devices.

http://www.stereophile.com/features/69/#eE3kszwsp5RadvU3.97

After all every piece of equipment that everyone owns, is made using the laws of electronics and test gear to develop it. Anyone who has something that's not made using these has voodoo gear. 

Cheers George

This sort of thing about how a fuse sounds needs to be put in the bin. Cheers George

Its quite remarkable. A tightening of the focus, a more solid image, and most important of all for my tastes, a deeper appreciation for the organic sound of the instruments. Damn! ... cellos sound great! Much improved attack on pianos. More humanistic on vocals. Bowed bass goes down forever

.

BTW, I’m sure OP’s statement that you quoted was said with tongue firmly planted in cheek. :-)

Best regards,
-- Al

I don’t know Al, he’s applauded things that left me shaking my head in wonder and fear for the gullible.

PS: maybe I should try sitting on your fence, this s**t is starting give me an ulcer.

Cheers George

Al, you are such a fence sitter/pacifier, "you need to come out". We non voodooists, all know this fuse stuff is at best, bunch of psychological BS, especially with statements like.

"What? you don’t think this is a viable solution to getting the last bit of the corners of the sound stage:"

Cheers George

Hey whitestix.

That looks very much like a voodoo doll as GK’s avatar, that could explain it all.

Out of 3000 posts GK you’ve only contributed 3 discussions to this forum, and they are beauties!!!

https://forum.audiogon.com/users/geoffkait/discussions

Cheers George

A tightening of the focus, a more solid image, a deeper appreciation for the organic sound of the instruments. Damn! ... cellos sound great! Much improved attack on pianos. More humanistic on vocals. Bowed bass goes down forever.

All from a fuse change, you need to do a GK and change your avatar.

http://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/voodoo-doll.jpg

Cheers George

Just to who the voodoo'ist are, for a reference not to believe anything they say in future posts on any topic.

Cheers George

This thread has disintegrated to where it deserves to be, and is a total waste of the forums server hard drive space.

Cheers George

wolf_garcia

A1++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Cheers George

It’s a 1/2" piece of resistance wire that has AC (alternating current) running through it, that changes direction 60 x a second, or 50 x where I live, it’s all BS.

Cheers George

+1 Wolf, and "passively elegantly written" Al, sure your not getting splinters there buddy? 

Sending back?? That was part of the marketing strategy!!!

Even if half send them back, they still made a fortune, about 99% profit on each fuse. Then the half that got returned get sold again as new, as they don't advertise "B" stock for sale cheaper do they????

Cheers George      

If she says what a difference to the sound before, or even that sounds good,  ill take it as judgment.

She's just keeping you interested, if you know what I mean???

Cheers George

"Simply buy several and remain near your gear with a fire extinguisher for a day or two just to be safe"  

 This is actionable behavior in a court of law. It is DEFAMATION.

but it made sense to me that a cheap fuse could be a bottleneck to good sound

A few posters here actually tried these products and found that they could perceive no sonic changes, or no changes for the better. I totally respect them and their views and I appreciate their contributions to this thread.

So, to put it bluntly, if you have no personal experience with these products, feel free to lurk, or to sincerely ask questions, but otherwise, please save yourself the agita and the wasted keystrokes, and let the rest of us get on with our little hobby....

tommylion

 is there a fuse made that has a built in fire extinguisher?

different melting points

I don't care for technical jargon

almarg

geoffkait

The trolls are cackling with delight.

"BTW if someone puts these in as their + and - DC rail fuses, and one blows before the other, you can say goodbye to that amp if not the speakers as well."
If you say so. But I suspect the operative phrase in that statement is "if someone puts these in...."

You might learn how to spell LITTELFUSE correctly when trying to make your point.

Hopefully anyone reading this thread looking for serious information realizes
the Synergistic Fuse = nonsense . Schills,charatans and 'snake oil' purveyors seem to delight,sadly, in bull shite.

Maybe it's an elaborate scheme on their part to get me to  destroy my equipment so they can sell me more? ;)

but has anyone asked why not ALL manufacturers use these fuses in their components if they make their units sound better? If it were me, I would definitely signed a volume purchase contract with SR just to get some advantage over my competition. Sounds stupid?

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01-18-2017 9:11am
3199 responses to this post. I just had to make it an even 3200. Also, this post makes me happy that I bought a pair of Pass Lab monoblocks. No Fuses; Thermal magnetic breakers.

whitestix
I put a SR Red fuse into my preamp yesterday and it blew immediately.  I put the Radio Shack fuse back in the preamp and the preamp powers up fine.  That was a $50 "butt dart".  

nyame
It is THE POWER SUPPLY that is reponsible for the improvements. The fuse allow the power supply to perform more effectively and this, not the fuse, is responsible for the improved performance.

nyame
I replaced 10 fuses in my system and after replacing the final fuse noted a fall-off in performance. I reversed the physical direction of the fuse and and optimum performance was restored. I DID NOT CONCLUDE THAT THE FUSE ITSELF IS INHERENTLY DIRECTIONAL.

Was it a mechanical connection problem ?

Even SR states their fuses are directional.

fleschler
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01-26-2017 5:44am
Highstream. I find that the SR black fuses increase the color and certainly the texture of instruments. The added detail and ambience give more life to the music, not just leading edge transients. Maybe in his system the SR fuses aren't working well.

We don't want or need your sarcastic, uneducated remarks.

The gullible audiophiles do, to protect them from things said about fuses by members who's half of their total posts are about voodoo improvements with these holy grail of fuses!!!!

Quote: "I find that the SR black fuses increase the color and certainly the texture of instruments. The added detail and ambience give more life to the music, not just leading edge transients."

Cheers George

highstreamFleschler, not here! George, if you think that those of us who claim that fuses can make a difference are just gullible, why are spending your time here? In any case, you've made your point, so please move on.

mac48025George,
I wish I knew how to post links, but I don’t.

grannyringGeorge, to answer your question;