I've had tripath, spectron, and now hypex. In the past I have owned both tube and class a solid state amps. Once I found hypex, I have never looked elsewhere.
It all comes down to personal preference. Some like the tube sound, others don't. There is no right or wrong. I always get a kick out of the audio nazis who put other's choices down with their snobby attitude and need to justify their own preferences - as if their version of reality is the only valid interpretation.
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I haven’t listened to Icepower so can’t comment.
The Levinson comment is a red herring. There are other companies, like Bel Canto, who were well known for their tube amps, but have ditched them in favor of class d in general, Hypex in particular.
From a performance standpoint, there are few amps in the world which can match the ncore for closeness to an ideal amplifier, i.e., a "wire with gain".
The last thing that would influence my purchase of any piece of audio gear is someone else's opinion of the sound. Reviewer or otherwise. Like someone telling me which wine or beer I should buy....
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Hey, georgehifi, maybe you should reread the initial post which started this thread. If you have issues with class d, you are in the wrong place.
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It's an open forum, that much is true. There is also proper etiquette and simple common courtesy. When someone opens a discussion and states clearly:
"I thought it was time we had a pro- Class D thread. There's plenty of threads about comparisons, or detractors of Class D.
That's fine, you don't have to like Class D amps, and if you don't please go participate on one of those threads.
For
those of us who are very happy and excited about having musical,
capable amps that we can afford to keep on 24/7 and don't require large
spaces to put them in, this thread is for you."
When you come in with your negative comments and unwanted opinions, you are what is known as a "thread crapper".
No one asked for your side of the class d issue. In fact, your side was specifically asked to post elsewhere. You aren't enlightening anyone here as to the evils of class d or changing any minds, you are simply putting your coarse character on display for all to see.
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Some people just have no self-awareness....
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Technics SE-R1 is not a class d amp.
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I see our thread crapper is still here...
It’s a digital amp, not a class d amp. From the Absolute Sound article on the Technics SE-R1:
"Digital Amplifiers
As with Class D amplifiers, digital amplifiers use a switching output stage; however, they accept digital rather than analog input signals. These “digital” amplifiers take in the pulse-code modulation (PCM) signal from a music server or other source and convert those audio data to a pulse-width modulated signal. This PWM signal then drives the output transistors, just as in a Class D amplifier. The difference between a Class D amplifier and a digital amplifier is that the digital amplifier accepts digital data rather than an analog signal."
Perhaps it’s more like a power dac....
Regardless, there is no doubt it sounds great, just like the Hypex ncore....People can whine all they want about switching speeds, blah blah blah...the ears don’t care...luddites need not apply...
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Some people can't get over the fact that not everyone sees, or hears, things the way they do. While most people are happy to let others enjoy whatever pleases them, some can't help but pee on their parade. It must be some sort of perverse character flaw.
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Newsflash: class d is already here and contending.....
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You can get around it by using a properly designed and implemented class d amp like those from Hypex. Good class d is very hard to do. Many poor quality products out there that do no favors to class d....
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The earlier Nuforce class d amps were notorious spewers of EMI.
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"May be a design issue with the cheaper Class D amps."
Exactly.
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Sorry, but he has nothing but tired, yesterday’s news to share. Class d has moved along, as many people here already know. No one is protecting their investments, they are just trying to enjoy the sunshine without some thread crapper peeing on their parade. Word gets out? Wow, wake up Rip!
I wonder how those that are into tubes would react if you wandered into their thread uninvited and started crapping all over it preaching about the issues with tubes....
Where are the moderators when you need them?
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He has already shown he has no manners or respect by his continued presence here, where he has nothing positive to add to the thread, a thread that clearly states it’s for those satisfied with class d, not those that get off by sowing dissent and trolling.
Go away troll...
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Nord is making nc500 based amps with a user selectable and user changeable input buffer to "tune" the sound to one's personal preference. It has been getting great reviews and is offered at extremely low prices given the performance. It can be made to sound any way the user prefers....
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