Ayon Audio Forum- all questions and suggestion

I could have swore I've seen $40,000 Ayon amps listed here on AG (too lazy to check right now). I would expect VIP service for such high prices. 

Do not recommend Ayon products. I have very bad experience with it (Orion II in repair once a year on average). I don’t know what parts are inside and whete it is assembled, but it does not look good (another Chinese product, just extremely overpriced...?).
Here I have put details of my experience https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/who-owns-ayon-amps so do not want to repeat details.

Hi everyone!I have an Ayon Spark ll amp which has two 6c33 power tubes, two 6h30 driver tubes and two 12au7 input tubes.I had two 6n1p tubes and replaced them with 6h30 tubes.I believe after this change, my amp's sound was improved in terms of both power and clarity.I just want to know could it be dangerous for my amp because of this tube replacement?Thanks

Experimenting with my dynaudio C1 signatures is been great fun and rewarding. I start with SS system from Audio GD that was amazing for the money. All the detail and good high end stuff one could ask for. After a couple of years and having no experience at all with tubes, I made a choice after much research and comparison between PCM and DSD to get a lampizator 4 DSD DAC and HQ player for my computer. What a surprise, not only I liked DSD better but also the tubes made the sound stage wider taller and deeper, textures, clearer and smoother sound, details and tones that to me sounded more like real live performances. After this dose of tube injection like a junkie I just wanted more. Next I rebuild my computer complete fan-less with linear PSU, Jcat USB card and DSD 512 capable, another big step on the right direction. Then I found a good deal on a used lampizator big 6, major steps forward. Finally I sold my Audio GD system to buy a Ayon Spirit lll generation 4 and never looked back. From the first listening sessions I liked this integrated a lot, but though bass was definitely good it was not near as powerful as the SS gear. Then my journey with tubes and cables rolling began. After I research some NOS tubes and experimenting with it, the sound got moving in the right direction again from top to bottom, better stronger and deeper bass. Now for cables at the time I was using Acoustic Zen Holograms for speakers and Krakatoa for power with great success with SS system. Finally I started messing with cable rolling and wasn’t until I tried some High fidelity cables that I felt the system was rewarding me with great improvements across the spectrum, but it was when I added the High Fidelity CT-1 speaker cables that the low end came to a level I could not believe possible for a cable alone to accomplish . Anyways the Ayon spirit lll is a great integrated amp for the Dynaudios and more, they have enough power and great synergy.

Has anyone compared the Ayon cd 35 to the PS Audio DMP transport and DSD SR. dac?
I had an Ayon 07s, and just purchased the PS Audio DMP and DSD dac, which I'm running directly into my amp, as I did with the 07s. Yes the PS Audio gear surpasses the Ayon player in many areas, except one very important area, tonality. I think if a had a good tube preamp the PS Audio gear would benefit greatly, and would add the missing bloom and tonality I'm missing, but now I'm thinking of just getting the Ayon cd 35, which has a built-in tube preamp, especially since I really enjoyed the 07s so much.

Thanks

Test

Hi
My Ayon Stratos Remote stopped responding even after changing the batteries.

Any troubleshooting techniques?
Please let me know

Long time since I posted here (forgot the thread existed!). I replaced my Ayon CD5s with a new Ayon CD35 a few weeks ago and am happy to say that it is a terrific unit! It is vastly improved over the already nice CD5s in all aspects of soundstaging including height, depth, location of instruments, air and holography. In addition, micro-detail is better presented with a more natural treble and a killer bass control and extension. Speakers have disappeared better. Running it balanced direct into modded Nuforce Reference 20 monos and then Von Schweikert VR 55 Aktive speakers with Delphi Aerospace Ultra cabling . Anyone else playing with the CD35?

I demo'd an Ayon CD1 from USA and ended up buying a Lector from them.  They were excellent to deal with, no BS, although some have had different experiences.  I will tell you that shipping a heavy piece from the East Coast to AZ is going to cost a lot, so keep that in mind.  

Anyone here S10 owners?  Have you had issues with volume control of dsd music?

I'm thinking of an Ayon Spirit. What is customer service like with USA Tube Audio. I live on east coast

Has anyone had problems with their S-5 and dropping of music files?

Has anyone heard the Ayon Crossfire III ? It uses some very properitery tubes. How is the sound like ?

I have been using Spheris III for a year now together with Vulcan evo (couple of months). Build like a tank. Very transparent but at the same time very musical and organic sound. Have used good preamps in the past (Arc ref 3, Vtl 6.5) but they just can not compete with Ayon.

Does anyone in the Ayon forum have experience with the Spheris lll preamp? I have an Auris and I am thinking of upgrading. I use the CD-5s, a Pass350-8 and B&W 802N, with Shuyata cables. I can get a good deal on an open box unit, and I am trying to decide if the price is worth it. Any comments will be welcome, although negative ones about my person will be cheerfully ignored. Thanks

Hello
Can you help ? i'm looking for a Aronov LS-9000 Tube Preamplifier schema but do not know where to get it. Need help.
Thanks

@chahed. Good luck with ayon. They will not laugh in my face, crack jokes and refuse to help me and take anymore of my money. Lol. I like tube equipment. I just won't buy it in Arizona. USA.

Great post Chahed, you have joined many that have exspressed their concerns, cheers.

By the Way thanks to french distributor Mr gill And marc neveu i did not have to send it (CD5) to austria i have had it repeared here in Paris France
And also to the gréât team of techniciens Who dealt with it And fixed it.
Mr chahed

Hello it´s uncanny...last year 2013 i had problem with my CD5...right output Level lower than the left...!!!..And i had to send it to austria via french distributor...1000$ shipping included.i had one of the two converter of the right output damaged.
So i asked Mr Girt in austria why have'nt you replaced both right output converters (fyi)..the cd5 has two(2) converters by output ...He then said it´s too expensive to change both converters And only one of the two Was not working...so got Back my cd5 repeared after having stayed from july 2013 till october 2013 without Music "CD5" i waited three months to have it Back repeared And 5 months later the same problem happened again with the same...right output Level ...it´s uncanny they know that the second converter of the right output Was on its Way to stop working ...
An important company like AYON is equiped with the l'atteste technologie to find out if it were nécessaire to change both converters or not..i dare say And any technicien would recommand you to do so
Isn't that logical or commun sens...!!!!
Anyway it costed me 650$ to have it repeared... Cause i had to replace both converters of the same right output for the second Time in less of six months And only one hour of use in a week... Thank you Girth Of AYON.Mr chahed.

@melbguy1 I guess we are gonna be room mates. Let's just say I'm glad I didn't live anywhere near AZ. Texans don't put up with that slick talk when we pay our money we expect respect and performance. I avoid big purchases over the internet now because this experience.

Lol AL, time you booked yourself into Belleview to get shrunk! :D

Agreed Calvinj!, I will never be over it!

@audiolabyrinth now be careful remember what happened the last time we told the truth. It cost us our thread. Calm down. Look I ain't got over it yet.

u.s.a who?, no comment, it would not be good for me to speak of them!, I would get very angry to recall my memory's!

@Mike, the original Ayon Triton just had "Ayon - Austria", and I believe the latest Triton 3 has the same label. Even so, to be able to say "Made in Austria" may only require a small percentage of parts made in China to be assembled in Austria to quality. In the case of Ayon, I would take that label with a grain of salt.

@Mikeg. Maybe my measly 4 grand has me sitting in coach with certain people. Hey, customer service 101. First time customers should be made happy. I got laughed at and jokes my way. I really don't want to elaborate because somebody will get this thread deleted. Well I wish people would take care of me like that. I guess I'm not important enough.

@Mikeg. Maybe my measly 4 grand has me sitting in coach with certain people. Hey, customer service 101. First time customers should be made happy. I got laughed at and jokes my way. I really don't want to elaborate because somebody will get this thread deleted.

agreed!

@AL, maybe Sion should re-name this thread "The Arnold thread"?

Melbguy1, LOL!, your 9-10-14 post is my thoughts!, I'm like, who dug this out of the dumpster?, I got a good laugh out of your post David.

I've had Ayon Audio products in my system since 2009 and couldn't of been happier. I owned the Triton I, II and now the III. Whenever I've had issues with tube failure or the first Triton remote, USA Tube Audio always took care of me. It says made in Austria on the back of each Triton integrated amp I've owned.

I own an SIA-025 Class A integrated which I bought in Q3 last year which incorporates the big update to this model in Q1, 2012. The RI-100 in the reference series is more affordable & is capable of driving almost any speaker load. The RI-100 sounds more neutral and a bit less warm and tube-like than the SIA-025, but still retains the familiar Vitus sound. One guy is using an RI-100 to drive his Magico Q7's! - http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue70/magico_vitus.htm

I saw that brand in a magazine. I will look into it further. It seems like it is well built. I hope I get to hear it one day. Worst customer service I have ever had. The guy just didn't want to do anything whatsoever once he got the money for sale. He just didn't understand the audiophile community is small and bad news travels fast. We expect more because we paid more. What vitus model do you have.

Calvin, I know what you mean as I've heard enough cases, including audiophile friends who've had major issues with reliability, warranty, customer service etc, as well as the opinion of a good AE to certainly warn me off thier amps and lower range CD players. Knock on wood I never had a problem with my Ayon CD-5s, then again I took it to my AE when it was new to upgrade the Op amps, and he generally fixes anything that's loose or likely to fail. The first thing you need to know is Ayon is not made in Austria. All thier products are made in thier factory in Hong Kong by Chinese workers, using mainly Taiwanese boards. Also, thier amps are unnecessarily complex. They try to control tube amps with microprocessors using proprietary software, then within 1-2years the emloyee who wrote the software has left Ayon, and they (Ayon) can't fix the problem because the only person who knew anything about it has left the company! If you add previously poor customer service to the mix, there are just too many red flags for me. I now buy mainly new Vitus gear which is made in Denmark, using Danish (Vitus) transformers, modules and boards. They only import a small percentage parts like caps, Phillips drives etc. and Vitus's customer service is friendly and helpful.

@melbguy1. I hate that I can't try ayon anymore. One bad expirence made me swear the whole brand off. Maybe I'm wrong for doing so but in this hobby at these prices. Service, performance and build quality got to have all three. Lol.

This thread is Lazarus with a triple bypass...it keeps comings back from the dead! Lol.

Anybody replace the Ayon KT-88BX tubes with Tung Sol KT-150 tubes on their Ayon Audio Triton III? If so, could you describe the differences? Anybody try the KT-88 Winged C tubes on their Triton III?

@sksos1 maybe one day I will be brave and try ayon again. Maybe an amp or a pre amp.

Thanks Calvinj but the EAR doesn't interest me only b/c the VRE is such an outstanding pre-amp IMHO. The VRE actually beat out my beloved Kondo M1000-MKII that retailed at $95,000. And not by a small margin I might add.

(Dealer disclaimer)

@ SKsos1, Hi Steve, what does the new AMR cd-777SE retail for?, do you know if it has a volume control like the Ayon cd-2s, so the unit could be used direct to an amp?

The ear868

Thinking about getting what?

Ok I'm thinking about getting one because I have a friend who has one and I'm impressed.

Calvinj will do. I've not heard the EAR pre, I use the VRE-1b preamp.

(Dealer disclaimer)

@sksos1Ok. Tell me how the AMR sounds after you get it. I will be interested to know how it performs. Also, Have you hear the EAR 868 preamplifier?

Calvinj I sell neither the AYON nor Parasound just saying what I've heard. In fact I just ordered the new AMR CD-777SE (without hearing it because it hasn't been released yet) but have high hopes. They say the 777SE now outperforms the much acclaimed 77.1 which will be no small feat!

(Dealer disclaimer)

@sksos1. Cd2s was thin and ear bleeding to me after initially sounding pleasant. Over a period of 4 months it got worse by the month. I have owned both and listened to each for at least 100 hours. I am not a dealer and I have no affiliation with parasound or ayon. All I know is that I was unhappy with the service and performance I got when I bought the the ayon. The parasound cd1 is vinyl like in its sound and it is the last CD player I will ever own. If you have a big cd collection this is your go to player.